Markham Elementary School in Oakland. (CBS)
OAKLAND (CBS 5) — A teacher at Oakland’s Markham Elementary School has been suspended indefinitely after school officials said a pair of second-graders performed sex acts on each other in class – with the teacher present.
“I think everyone is taken aback over this shocking incident,” Troy Flint, the spokesman for the Oakland Unified School District, told CBS 5. “Of course, it is hard to understand how that could have occurred.”
Flint said the sex acts incident was one of two separate cases under investigation involving the teacher; both incidents occurred last week in the same classroom but he said they didn’t come to the attention of school officials until Wednesday.
In one case, several students apparently took off their clothes and were naked in the classroom. In the second incident, a boy and girl reportedly engaged in oral sex in front of their classmates.
Flint indicated that the suspended teacher, whose name was not released by the school district, was present for both of the incidents.
Flint and Markham principal Pam Booker said they were limited in terms of the details they could release at this time because of the ongoing investigation into the matter.
Booker noted that the students said to be involved in the incidents were interviewed by school leaders.
In a letter sent to parents of Markham students on Thursday, Booker offered an apology by telling them that the incidents “represent an unacceptable lack of supervision. I understand there is great anger over this news.”
(Copyright 2011 by CBS Broadcasting Inc. All rights reserved.)
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wt…??? oral sex between 2nd graders???
January 21, 2011 at 12:38 am | | Report comment
Here’s to all of you people who DON’T think we are in a steep decline in this country. MTV has a new show out where it’s children basically f*cking, and everybody looks around DUMBFOUNDED as to why these things occur.
I love how they cite ” a lack of supervision” as the problem.
January 21, 2011 at 5:56 am | | Report comment
I don’t think MTV is entirely to blame…I think the ease of access to pornography on the internet is to blame for most of these cases. Instead of letting kids sit in front of the computer for hours on end parents need to throw them outside….
January 21, 2011 at 7:39 am
I think the kids were well supervised. Just nobody stopped them.
January 21, 2011 at 8:10 am
Whats so shocking about this story. After all this is San Fran you know. I’m just surprised to know that it was 2 children of the opposite sex involved. Next week we’ll probably hear reports similar except that the teacher will be involved in the act as well. You know giving a demonstration or something like that.
January 21, 2011 at 8:35 am
hi jerry
January 21, 2011 at 9:10 am
Ha — MTV and culture and Obama and heavy metal. Every few years something comes out and a bunch of yahoos shout “country in steep decline!” What nonsense.
The problem is this country is that we are so repressed, we so demonize sex, that we’re so ashamed of our naked bodies that our natural urges come out in all kinds of perverted ways.
The problem is not too much sex — it’s that we live in a country where if you show a naked body, the film gets an R, but if you show a body being blown up, it gets a PG.
Grow up, everybody. Really.
January 21, 2011 at 10:02 am
I have no idea how 2nd graders would know about oral sex. I didn’t have a clue in H.S. I think we need to throw out the T.V.’s if this is where they’re exposed to this.
January 21, 2011 at 10:10 am
The Godless, Liberal agenda working for you and your familes. Why would any sane person put their children in public schools these days?
January 21, 2011 at 10:11 am
Or this understatement: “Of course, it is hard to understand how that could have occurred.”
January 21, 2011 at 10:12 am
You are 100% correct!
January 21, 2011 at 10:21 am
Rush – WAKE UP – of course MTV and pretty much all the media is to blame! This is so getting out of hand. Watch the first 15 minutes of Peter Jackson’s King Kong – the scene where Ann goes the Burlesque theater to work – the posters on the walls show the PORN from back in the 1930′s – women dressed in basically a one piece swimsuit with stocking all the way up her legs and gloves covering her hands and arms – very little skin AND THAT WAS THE PORN! Now you can’t take your kids to the mall to shop with out have to cover their eyes as you pass Victoria’s Secret AND OTHER STORES with LARGER THAN LIFE ALMOST NAKED woman postered all over the place. WAKE UP AMERICA! It’s the “Frog in the blender” – little at a time – “don’t judge”, let it slide AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW. Imagine how bad it will be 20 years from now!
January 21, 2011 at 10:56 am
Lack of supervision IS a major problem contributing factor to the problem…kids are stupid and don’t have a clue until they’re in their mid twenties. And them being clueless is WHY supervision is important. I suspect, however, the lack of supervision began at home…
January 21, 2011 at 11:01 am
Has anyone else heard of the 20 by 20 “game” going around? It seems to have hit my area. The goal is to have had 20 different sexual partners by the time you are 20. It is no wonder so many of our young people have incurable STD’s and have no respect for themselves or others! If you hear your child saying something about “getting their 20″ or “working on their 20″ you now know what they are talking about!
January 21, 2011 at 11:04 am
Its Cali enough said!
January 21, 2011 at 11:39 am
who gives a f l i c k, its oakland
January 21, 2011 at 11:48 am
Yea, really. Supervision!!!?? What are you talking about. What does that mean? Teachers need supervision so they don’t have kids naked in the classroom. Teachers need supervision to prevent this from happening. Does that mean there are teachers out there who would do this all the time if they weren’t supervised??
January 21, 2011 at 12:10 pm
It’s not MTV, it’s the parents at fault. We as parents know the dangers of the world, why oh why would you not instill this into your children? I taught my children before they ever left my house what is appropriate. My child would have said no way & reported it. She probably would have stopped the other kids from doing it too. Teaching our kids from day one prevents this stuff from happening. Because I taught my child this, she was able to prevent an abduction of her and two friends, and she was able to find the guy that attempted it.
Don’t get me wrong, convict the idiotic teacher, but we has parents are solely responsible for protecting our children and teaching them the difference between right and wrong.
January 21, 2011 at 12:42 pm
David in NYC response sounds like a response of a pedophile…
January 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Why doesn’t anyone ever blame the parents? Education and the teaching of right & wrong start in the home. May be these kids were acting out what they saw in their homes.
January 21, 2011 at 1:25 pm
“a lack of supervision” Coulda sworn there was a “teacher” in there somewhere ~ encouraging this no less. What a dispicalbe “human” being he/she is. This is a sick world we live in…only a sign of things yet to come.
January 21, 2011 at 1:27 pm
“Steep decline” to what? It’s just sex. What evidence do you have that these kids got the idea to have sex from MTV?
I *NEVER* watched MTV when I was a kid but I had sexual fantasies since I was at least 6 years old. I had oral sex with a female neighbor my age and her sister who was three years older than me. Me and a female friend and I agreed to have sex with each other at age 6 (though we never went through).
I always thought sex play was normal with kids. I’m not all that surprised. I’m just surprised that it happened in a classroom.
January 21, 2011 at 1:45 pm
OmeriKa.
Hope, change and degenerates running your life.
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January 21, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Dave in NYC, are you a member of NAMBLA?
I’m utterly sickened by the notion that you would use this terrible incident as a platform to preach your liberal extremist rhetoric about our country being sexually repressed. If anything, this incident is evidence that our society is becoming way too depraved, and NOT repressed.
I feel very sorry for the children in that class and their parents for having to go through this. When we send our children to school we assume that they are in a wholesome environment conducive to learning. Not an environment where sick liberals perform social engineering experiments on our young kids.
FOR SHAME!!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 2:49 pm
BUT the show Skins, to which you are reffering, on MTV is actually a rip off of a British series. Ripped off almost word for word. It is really sad but even in depravity Americans aren’t being original anymore
January 21, 2011 at 3:02 pm
yeah…. MTV hasn’t been socially relevant for a 15 years.
TV in general… and the internet clearly exposes people to things they never would have been in previous generations…
But that’s what parents are for.
Starting with the Baby Boomers… people simply stopped caring.
January 21, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight…because MTV is responsible for raising people’s children, right?
Don’t be idiot. This is all about sloppy parenting by people who think raising children involves nothing more than providing them with enough food, water, and shelter to keep them alive until they hit 18.
January 21, 2011 at 3:56 pm
OMG you people need to stop trying to blame other people for this its everyones fault and no ones fault
January 21, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Supervision is only part of the problem — chances are at least one of these kids was molested and brought that experience to school. I’m a social worker and deal with these kinds of scenerios more than you would think!
January 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Everything is to blame…the whole world has gone mad. This is Sodom, Gomorrah and the city of Babylon now in second grade public schools. What kind of filth allows babies like this to even know what that trash is? Did you know that in second grade? If you are older than 35, I think not.
January 21, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Can’t let the kids outside to play anymore. At least not without parental supervision. There’s a perv on every street corner now.
Sounds like there is a perv in every school now too.
There does not seem to be any info on the teacher…. Male??? Female??? Other???. or whatever it calls itself these days.
Voters and Tax payers. Speak out now!!!!!! This is disgusting………..
January 21, 2011 at 8:15 pm
David in NYC – go repress yourself…
In my lifetime, embracing the sick, twisted “studies” of the pedophile/pervert Kinsey has mainstreamed and normalized sex with children for the hard up lefties who couldn’t get a “date” with a $1000 bill. This is actually one of the top ten goals of communism – take children away from parents. corrupt their minds and make them slaves to the state.
January 22, 2011 at 6:10 am
let convicts figure out what to do with this piece of human garbage
January 22, 2011 at 7:43 am
MTV, the Internet, and every other stupid factor is not to blame, its THE PAENTS. None of those are factors if the parents just stepped up and taught there kids common decency.
January 22, 2011 at 10:03 am
David in NYC nailed it. What happened in the classroom is obviously wrong. But in a society where all of the top shows evolve around violence, murder and other harmful acts, it’s actually refreshing to have a show built around sex.
January 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm
David in NYC
Are you really as dumb and stupid as you sound? You idiot – these are 2nd graders, not adults, not high school or college students. THEY ARE 2nd GRADERS! You freaking oaf. Are you a pedophile, someone who enjoys watching children performing sex acts on each other and then fantasizing about being involved yourself?
I have read some absolutely stupid comments in my lifetime but none as stupid as yours especially when one considers the topic.
You don’t need to grow up, you should be incarcerated.
January 22, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I grew up with no MTV or access to internet and I as well as every other kid I knew played doctor with other children of the opposite sex. Now as for this happening in a school i think it is ridiculous and there is an obvious breach of trust and responsibility on the part of the school officials however, no I disagree that we are in a decline at all let alone a steep one. It wasn’t very long ago in the so called “good ol’ days” when women couldn’t vote and black people were sitting on the back of the bus and getting lynched left and right. Oh yes such a moral time it was. People like you just don’t think much and are very effected by manufactured outrage headlines that is all.
January 22, 2011 at 6:15 pm
MTV is absolutely 100 percent responsible for their show. They knew exactly what they were doing and should be tried for a sex crime.
January 22, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Oh, please. A pending TV show, a sanitized version of one more popular in England didn’t cause this. And please, do you see any school boards approving?
January 22, 2011 at 7:35 pm
what about blue lagoon where 2 15 year old actors engage in sex acts with one another while stranded on a deserted island? That was released in the 80′s and its a classic. why is that not pornography but showing a 17 year olds ass in a scene that doesn’t even involve any sex is? It’s not! And while this teacher should have not allowed this behavior to go on it is perfectly natural for 7 year olds to be curious about the equipment they have. Stop blaming porn and MTV for children engaging in anatomical curiosity, sex is natural, embrace it and talk to your kids about it so incidences like these don’t happen. Besides i find it hard to believe that these children even know what oral sex is unless one of them has been previously molested, otherwise this could be curiosity gone too far.
January 22, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Its not the show the kids are watching because it says viewer discretion is advised its the parents that dont pay attention to what their kids watch
and the teacher from this school what the hell was he thinking letting the children continue with these sexual acts why didnt he stop it?
January 24, 2011 at 7:55 am
i think its the parents to blame! these kids wouldnt be doing these things if their parents were paying attention to what there kids watch and learn!!!!
March 1, 2011 at 8:08 am
We are a liberal society, and as such, we need to remove the social stigmatisms around sex.
While the place was inappropriate, and the children should have been learning, sex in never a bad thing.
The problem lies with the teacher. Clearly the teacher wasn’t doing their job, and the children were just filling the time because they were bored.
January 21, 2011 at 6:25 am | | Report comment
SEX IN A CLASSROOM BETWEEN 7 YEAR OLD CHILDREN!
Sorry for the emphasis but this has nothing to do with intolerance or boredom. They are nearly toddlers and this behavior is just plain wrong. What planet are you from to dismiss this as merely passing the time, ho hum.
January 21, 2011 at 6:43 am
You are a deranged Kook and I hope you don’t have any children to teach them this free love and peace garbage..please see a therapist
January 21, 2011 at 6:45 am
You are insane if you think there was anything whatsoever appropriate about this.
January 21, 2011 at 6:52 am
I agree. Plus, nudity with 7 year old is not the end of the world. But no, arrest the teacher, ruin the life. Oral sex probably done by students to get the teacher out of their case. Children know how to take control of their environment. Today no one is safe from some children that can get an adult in trouble in no time. Solution:
Surveillance. Follow each student and each teacher and administrator every where even to their own bathrooms. Arrest everyone, child, teachers. Make each person a ward of the state. Make more laws. Make more arrest. Everyone needs to go to jail where one can get afterward a government permit to work, and counseling and a job placement.
January 21, 2011 at 6:54 am
You are a sick, twisted, tortured soul. If you are not being sarcastic, I think that some authority may need to pay you a visit.
I am just glad you don’t live next door.
Whew!
January 21, 2011 at 7:03 am
I realize not everyone can be smart, but do you at least have 2 brain cells you can rub together? Your post is ludicrous babble.
January 21, 2011 at 7:41 am
You must be a Californian to have a stupid nanny state answer like this. Are you kidding me?
January 21, 2011 at 8:04 am
good point……she should have given them a condom and a pack of Pall Malls……..why not?….they’re gonna do it anyway…….right?
January 21, 2011 at 7:00 am
How about the school system pay a room at the Ritz? No sense they should not have room service and a spa after the act
January 21, 2011 at 7:14 am
Dear MM
I really think you suffer from delusional mental instability to look at this situation and give excuses for this to be ok, or even understandable. This is absolutely 100% out of bounds to exist in public schools at any grade, and especially for 7 year olds, and sex is not and never will be proper for casual encounters and experimentation at that age. The liberal notions you invoke are irresponsible and undignified, if you had any moralities , you would never support any of this child abuse.
January 21, 2011 at 7:39 am
Dear MM
7yrs old – 2nd Graders IS TOO YOUNG FOR SEX – IPERIOD. With all the STD’s rampant in our society due to easy sex. These children need guidance at home first regarding abstinence and then someone with moral character at school.
Sex in and of itself is not at all bad. It should be limited to the moral constraints under which it was first given. Do you remember when it was first given?
January 21, 2011 at 8:32 am
We are a liberal society??? No, you liberals are being rejected more and more every day for exactly the kind of garbage you spewed in your comment. As others said, I hope you don’t have kids of your own. If you do, one of two things will happen. They will grow up as deranged as you are, or, they will see what a degenerate you are and reject you as a parent. I’m hoping for the latter.
January 21, 2011 at 8:34 am
What is your problem? These are CHILDREN!
If it was YOUR kid, your attitude would be different.
The parents are at fault, and the teacher is at fault – and the teacher should be jailed!
January 21, 2011 at 8:35 am
If you don’t live in Oakland..may I suggest that you move there …you will feel very at home…..PS and stay there
January 21, 2011 at 8:35 am
Excuse me! Children should be learning sex is never a bad thing? Sex between 2nd graders isn’t a bad thing? What planet are you from?
January 21, 2011 at 8:36 am
MM you are sick!!! These are children we are talking about. You and all that think like you should be locked up somewhere you sick pedophile!!! You liberal freaks are destroying what was once a great nation! As a parent and a normal person you make me sick!
January 21, 2011 at 8:37 am
MM on what fact do you base your statement “We are a liberal society”? Oh wait, just like a typical liberal you make up facts to suit you. I defy you to find ONE single poll that supports your idiotic statement.
January 21, 2011 at 8:38 am
You are joking right?!? There’s a huge difference between being a liberal society (and some would argue that point with you also) and sexual child abuse. These aren’t consenting adults we’re talking about. Liberal society or not I would hope your sick, liaise fair attitude doesn’t represent anyone’s opinion but your own. I also hope you don’t have children or a job that brings you in contact with anyone else’s kids.
January 21, 2011 at 8:42 am
God are you sick.
January 21, 2011 at 8:47 am
Surely you have no children, but if you do, I don’t want mine in class with yours.
January 21, 2011 at 8:49 am
MM, you are an idiot, pure and simple
January 21, 2011 at 8:57 am
This comment is SICK! Sex between children is NEVER a good thing! My God, what kind of nation have we become?
January 21, 2011 at 8:59 am
MM YOU ARE INSANE – REMOVE THE SOCIAL STIGMATISMS AROUND SEX, REALLY! OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NO SOCIAL STIGMATISM OTHERWISE THIS WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED. YOU REALLY ARE DELIRIOUS OR WAS ONE OF THESE 2ND GRADERS YOURS!?
January 21, 2011 at 8:59 am
SJH needs to learn the difference between the definition of “liberal” and the definition of “political liberal.”
I was sexually molested by another child when I was nine. He was eight. I was not allowed to watch television, he was raised in a strict Christian household where he was not allowed to watch “adult” shows. The internet didn’t exist yet. We learned about sex from jokes a 12 year old babysitter told us and didn’t know what it was or that it was how people made babies. Neither of us were even aware that molestation existed. We had both been taught not to allow adults to touch our private places, but we were never taught why. The only reason I say I was molested was because I repeatedly told him no and he kept doing it anyway. If he had known what sex represented in society and that it is something that should be kept private and between consenting adults, he might not have forced me to do things I didn’t want to do. Protecting children can be more dangerous than exposing them.
I think MM is a little overboard here, but at the same time, kids play and they realize they have different body parts. And kids are naturally curious: you tell them not to do something, of course they’ll try and do it. There is nothing in society to “blame” for these kids’ behavior; however, a teacher should have nipped it in the bud. The teacher was clearly not supervising, or was involved in encouraging this behavior, which is even worse.
January 21, 2011 at 9:01 am
You are a glittering jewel of colassal ignornace.
January 21, 2011 at 9:08 am
You are just plain stupid or joking.
You also voted for Obama… c’mon, admit it.
January 21, 2011 at 9:22 am
Are your currently under the care of a Psychiatric professional?
January 21, 2011 at 9:24 am
You need to be supervised with a statement like that, I think communist countries show more morality these days, if this had happened in China they would have flogged the kids and hung the teacher and that would send a message to the public that civilizations can’t exist with this type of morality
January 21, 2011 at 9:24 am
We also need to remove social stigmas surrounding sexually transmitted diseases. When promiscuous people contract deadly diseases, why should we, as a society, look at that as a “bad thing”? It is simply Nature’s way of eliminating those unfit for survival and we ALL love Nature, don’t we?
January 21, 2011 at 9:26 am
You can’t be serious. It’s obvious you don’t have and never should have children of your own . SIcko
January 21, 2011 at 9:27 am
Sex is never a bad thing. Ask the hundreds of thousands of gay men who got AIDS in a bath-house, letting some stranger shove his tool up their hind end. Yeah.
January 21, 2011 at 9:27 am
We do NOT live in a liberal society – we live in a right-of-center society being forced to the left by the media and socialist politicians in Washiongton. Coservative values are still the norm in most households in the United States and sexual acts by 7-year-olds is NOT normal.
January 21, 2011 at 9:27 am
Jaw dropping to the floor after reading your comment. You must be insane to think its ok for 7 year olds to have sex. You must be into kiddie porn or something.
January 21, 2011 at 9:33 am
@MM we are not a liberal society we are a conservative society, as was apparent in the most recent elections. If you will, we’re a center right society. You may be a liberal community but I can promise you are in the minority overall.
This episode is appalling on many levels and serves to show how far we’ve fallen as a nation. The internet may make porn more accessible but it’s always been around and accessible. It’s not accessibilty that’s at issue, it’s moral errosion that’s at issue. There is no way a 2nd grade class should even be learning sex ed let alone role playing it in class. We’ve become way to permissive as a culture and now were reaping the results. Our children are less educated, more inclined to immoral behavior, less involved in their communities and completely focused on personal gratification. This is a parent issue. We have failed the next generation.
January 21, 2011 at 9:33 am
MM
People like you are the biggest part of our problem. If you think sex in the second grade is ok… we are certainly doomed if there are alot of people who think like you.
VH
January 21, 2011 at 9:45 am
Seriously? If you reall believe what you have written here…you are part of tje problem? College Professor? Yikes
January 21, 2011 at 9:46 am
Please note that MM stands for either Moral or Mental Mush!
January 21, 2011 at 9:46 am
let me guess….youre a child of the 60′s. You probably sit around in your commune smoking pot tuning in with nature talking about how to take down the man. Get a freakin life. You people on the loony left need a lobotomy to dig out that tumor so you can think rationally
January 21, 2011 at 9:52 am
Many typos in my original reply to MM – due to broken index finger, not my California public school education! (LOL) I am glad to see there are so many “non-liberals” in this “liberal society” of ours.
January 21, 2011 at 9:53 am
So you would have no problem with your children, in second grade being taught about sex, by people that you don’t know?
January 21, 2011 at 9:54 am
Where and when did you bump your head moron? I have only one question to ask you MM, how many stints in prison did you do for child molestation? If you haven’t yet I am sure you will be serving time very soon!
January 21, 2011 at 10:00 am
I hope you haven’t and/or don’t breed.
January 21, 2011 at 10:13 am
How many EXCUSES can you offer ????????????????????
January 21, 2011 at 10:17 am
come on, it’s one thing if there playing doctor in the coat room, but performing oral sex acts, points to the fact that they must have seen it at some point, most likely a parents porn collection. i would not judge the teacher until i knew the class size and the poverty level the kids are coming from. 50 kids given no direction at home could be more then a handful. 18 kids in a small middle class classroom is a whole other thing. Also sex at such a young age can be very harmful, causing emotional regression and social disability, given the context of our society.
January 21, 2011 at 10:17 am
MM… wow, do tell us, how is the weather on Planet Loon today?
January 21, 2011 at 10:19 am
seriously? sex between 2 CHILDREN is not a good thing. and why isn’t anyone looking at the children’s parents? where did they learn it? sex ed is taught in my home, but it is also taught that it is a private thing between 2 adults. CLearly this teacher should be FIRED and not on suspension. when my kids are bored, they find a book.
January 21, 2011 at 10:32 am
Note to MM – your IP address has been submitted and is currently being traced. Federal Officials will be knocking at your door shortly and will demand you take a position with the Obama Administration.
January 21, 2011 at 10:40 am
MM, I’m gonna’ need to pile on here. Let’s just say for arguments sake that in the (not so) distant future you have grown children who have children. Let’s say they are five years old. Now let’s just say they decide they don’t want to come in for dinner one night so they get naked and have anal intercourse with the neighbors five year old children on the sidewalk in front of your house, ya’ know ‘cuz they’re bored…is that OK with you?
January 21, 2011 at 10:51 am
“sex i[s] never a bad thing”!?!?!? Are you serious!?!? These are 7-year-olds for crying out loud!!!!
Sex is a bad thing in lots of contexts. From rape to abuse to any sex involving children (whether with adults or other children)… Bad results of mis-used sex range from broken hearts and broken homes to STDs and unintended pregnancies.
Sex can be great when done in healthy and appropriate contexts, but the nonchalant dismissal you show towards “social stigmatisms” is the worst kind of willful blindness. I have two underage children, and you better believe I want sex with children to remain a “social stigmatism”!
January 21, 2011 at 11:14 am
We are not a liberal society. Look at the outrage on this story alone.
January 21, 2011 at 11:19 am
MM,
Be careful with what you share with people through such a widely viewed medium. You are using the idea of “liberal society” in an effort to pass off your own opinions.
Needless to say, we have rules and regulations in our liberal society. The reason for such things is because, despite the fact that we encourage liberal thinking, we commonly agree on certain truths. 21 year olds are simply more mature when it comes to alcohol consumption. 16 year olds are allowed to drive because, for the most part, we agree that they are capable of handling the responsibility of driving. We teach children sexual education at puberty because it is at that time that we agree they need to know about such things.
In this case, MM, sex IS a bad thing. You are sick if you think otherwise. There is nothing wrong with promoting liberal thinking, but that is no excuse for encouraging recklessness.
Use your head, please. Dont waste our time with such silly comments.
Thank you
January 21, 2011 at 11:21 am
we may be a “liberal” society, but thankfully, we can change that.
January 21, 2011 at 11:26 am
WE ARE NOT A LIBERAL SOCIETY. we are a representative democracy, that is our society. nudity taboos have nothing to do with this. they had to have had someone show them this, or seen it online, etc. its not intuitive at that age. Maybe the SF society is, but it IS liberal, look at their politics. Part of the reason I left CA for AZ.
January 21, 2011 at 11:28 am
Remove the social stigmatisms around sex? Sex isn’t a game and is often a bad thing. The whole intent of sex is to further the species, not recreation. We are not a liberal society, as you would hope, but a conservative society that has to put up with a minority of libersls who know how to shout over any conservative trying to make a point.
January 21, 2011 at 11:40 am
Little history lesson. Rome was the longest lasting democracy in history, until the US. they lasted just over 200 years, but towards the middle to the end, they became more and more “liberal” in society and policy, and look what happened. anarchy, the fall of the greatest country up to that time because of “barbarians” who still had the will tofight for what they wanted, and rome didnt. they were too busy having orgies (of all sorts of depravities) and feasts than with running the country and keeping it going. it bears a very strong resemblance to our country, we have become spoiled for the majority, who wants to flip burgers (or work at all when politicians will just give you money if you vote for them, and that is another history lesson. Alexander Tyler who was a Scottish History Professor at the University of Edinburgh warned that a democracy would last until the populace learned they could vote themselves “freebies”, then the country would fall into ruin. and we are there, the politicians vote themselves pay raises, benefits, and you vote for them, they will give you free money, better tax “breaks”, extended unemployeement, etc, etc)
January 21, 2011 at 11:45 am
!!!@!
January 21, 2011 at 12:09 pm
MM, you are out of your mind. I treat adults who were molested as children and I can tell you for a fact that this is NOT harmless behavior. Yes, sex is normal and natural, but not at 7 and not in a classroom.
January 21, 2011 at 12:14 pm
MM, “sex” is an act that has been absolutely minimized, glorified and pornified. Intercourse requires a great deal of amturity and self respect because a child can be born of this act. This act requires great maturity and responsibility to all parties involved, yet, we are sensualized through media and led to believe that “sex”, as you put it, is for our own personal pleasure. It is an honor to bring life into being and is therefore a very spiritual experience, but, you won’t see that in the media.
Children are innocent and protecting their innocence is one of our greatest responsibilites. “Sex” minus respect, dignity and spirituality is nothing more than perversion. Just take a look around you, MM. With the pervasiveness of pornography we see that it is a force of corruption…..not well being.
Our world has become more dangerous due to the sensualization of mankind. More children are raped, kidnapped, abused and murdered in these past 10 years than any other decade due to the proliferation of pornography in music videos ( “lady” Gaga, Christine Agulieara, and other purveyors of pornographic music videos ), television, Movies, Magazines and more.
Children are like amplifiers of their environment. They emulate what they live so it would be of little use to censor them in a world filled with corruption and perversion. They become what they see in their environment….and these children are the poster children of the sickness of such a debauched society.
If you plant a seed in corrupt soil then it will grow according to what is in that soil….children ( and we were ALL once children ) are no different.
Speak up for the children of the world for they have no voice. Don’t defecate where these angels eat, breathe and sleep.
January 21, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Seriously…you are sick. Sexual contact, sex acts, or sex itself is WRONG for anyone other than adults… and 2nd graders – ????? SECOND GRADERS are 7 years old! This wasn’t “I’ll touch your pee pee if you touch mine” – this was oral sex acts!!!! It’s sad.. it’s horrifying.. and your comments are WHY this is happening to children – because of people like you who “don’t want sex to be a bad word”. Clearly, you are not a parent, and clearly you are void of morals.
January 21, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Liberated my rear!! The “social stigmatism” regarding sex with children in any way, shape or form is best left intact, and society made rid of ANYONE who believes sex with children is acceptable. And off to the lunatic asylum for those who would defend such behavior. Sadly, though, it does not appear that one can fix STUPID!
January 21, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Are you friggin kidding me??? a lot more then the place was inappropriate. And I dunno about you in 2nd grade, but filling time with oral sex never entered my mind when i was bored. Your just sick,.,
January 21, 2011 at 1:06 pm
SERIOUSLY? Never? Even when it’s 2nd graders and they’re in public?
So, the teacher wasn’t keeping the kids entertained, so they decided to play “Monica & Bill” because they were bored?
Hate to give you the big news flash, but we are not in a liberal society, the majority are conservative.
January 21, 2011 at 1:19 pm
MM you must have had your face in a Hustler Mag while you should have been listening to the teacher and learning English. Your grammer is awful.
January 21, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I first blame the parent (or parents on the outside chance the children came from a stable traditional home. Next, I blame the teacher for not doing their job properly. I’m a teacher, if my classroom (and I teach High School) were ever that out of control I need to be fired…immediately. Then I blame society in general where sexual misbehavior is not only tolerated but glamorized.
MM. We are unfortunately turning into a liberal society…but the social stigmas around sex should remain…not only the place, but the behavior as well was wrong. Sex among children IS a bad thing.
January 21, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Am I alone in realizing that this individual is playing a liberals game and laughing at every person that has replied to it’s comment?
January 21, 2011 at 3:02 pm
You and Dave in NYC are late for your NAMBLA meeting. Be sure and tell your nine year-old boyfriend you’ll be late getting home tonight.
Oh, BTW: Chris Hansen from Dateline NBC called. He needs you to sign a waiver so he can show your arrest for child molestation on NBC tonight. Please return his call.
January 21, 2011 at 5:36 pm
MM…………………….You are sick………….
January 21, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Sex is a bad thing for children because they lack the psychological and emotional development to participate in it. Sex is a very intimate thing between adults; it requires trust and vulnerability, and still many adults get hurt because they have been used by people who never valued them for more than their genitals. Is this the legacy you want to hand down to a child? Would you “remove the social stigmatisms” around driving, give them the keys to your new car, and without so much as a driving lesson, set them loose on the highway? Of course not! They would be in danger, get hurt, and possibly die. Children need our protection and nurture to help them develop safely within the boundaries of their developmental stages. Don’t assume that because sex is great for you as an adult that it is good for children. For children, sex play should be played out with Ken and Barbie dolls, not living people, and certainly not themselves. Finally, it seems the easiest thing to do is blame the teacher; it is also very popular. I can’t imagine what she/he was doing that they were so distracted! Parents may have come to the door, and while holding her/his foot in the door, the teacher may have spoken with the parent just outside the door. It is a reasonable scenario. And it doesn’t take kids long to strip! I will not make excuses for this teacher. Clearly, he/she was distracted to the point of child endangerment. Kids don’t have a natural instinct toward oral sex – they had to have seen it at home or been victims of it themselves. Sex education starts at home. I would say the investigation should begin in their homes, and not exclude that teacher’s practices. I am a teacher, too, and this story makes me so angry because the children were hurt, and it just gives society another reason to blame us for their lack of attention to their own kids. God help us protect the children from what we’ve become, and from people like David in NYC and MM.
January 22, 2011 at 1:10 am
MM – what a riot! I, too, am outraged by your comment, but having read most of the comments that yours generated, I wonder if you didn’t say it just to create your own little 15-minutes of cyber-fame. Kids having sex in 2nd grade? It must be the result of having taken Ken and Barbie out of the classroom. Oh, and God, too.
January 22, 2011 at 1:42 am
Bet they wernt white.
January 22, 2011 at 8:04 am
Its quite clear the mice in your head need some cheese for a feeding A liberal society ? Learning sex should be taught by there parents You do know what parents are? Heterosexual parents a man and a woman You lack insight tells me you must have been bored to not to have received an education in ethics ….Have a wonderful day
April 28, 2011 at 9:50 pm
You seem surprised by oral sex between Oakland’s second graders. One former Oakland girlfriend first had intercourse in the first grade; her only complaint is that the boy, a third grader, was an unskilled lover. Remember that this is the home of the “sideshow,” where a mob takes over an intersection, pimps show off their stables of young girls, open-air sex is cool, and gang thugs shoot one another, bullets flying into adjacent homes.
January 21, 2011 at 8:48 am | | Report comment
I could be wrong, but I don’t think MM was implying that kids at school or even that age should be having sex. I think MM meant that all the comments about making porn etc illegal is wrong and he’s correct about that. With that said WTH is wrong with this teacher? Didn’t notice? Isn’t the teacher supposed to be watching these kids? You can’t leave 7 year old children alone by themselves because either this might happen or they might burn the place down.
I bet one of these poor kids learned it from a neighbor or family member and passed it on to the others. They need to find out which one, if not the teacher, instigated the whole thing and find out what might be happening at home or in the neighborhood. And if it was the teacher then lock him away. The whole thing is GROSS.
January 21, 2011 at 9:04 am
liberal/left leaning people have been pushing for sex ed at this age for years. so it doesnt surprise me it happened, or that the teacher DIDNT stop it. or that MM does mean at that age its ok, just not when they should be learning, what they should be learning is up to debate with this attitude.
January 21, 2011 at 11:47 am
Walter, you SHOULD have been shocked. I don’t care if it is San Francisco; young children acting out sexually is not the San Francisco Treat! Are you so desensitized that you can really say this problem is geographically predictable? How very sad!
January 22, 2011 at 1:20 am
This is the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals created this scenerio, especially the statement that the principal said they were “not supervised”. are you kidding? This type of perversion is somewhat mainstream in the liberal ideology. America, you must choose sides. liberals are entrenched in all areas og Government and they must be removed or this act will go completely unpunished.
January 21, 2011 at 8:53 am | | Report comment
This happens on both sides marty. It doesn’t always have anything to do with liberal vs. conservative. And how did liberals “create the scenario”? Were they in the classroom? 7 years old can be an experimental age for many kids and they don’t have to see it on the internet or from anyone really. What needs to happen is that a responsible adult is there supervising them to say NO. This kind of garbage has been going on since the dawn of time. It just wasn’t until now when people became more open to it happening that they discuss it.
I was kind of molested by a neighbor boy. Some of my girlfriends were always trying to do weird stuff to me. My brother’s friend tried to do things to me and I didn’t say anything. All these things at different ages. Yeah, I should have said something but I was embarrassed because back then you didn’t say anything. The kids should have been reprimanded and my brothers friend should have been arrested. Oh, btw, this was back in the 70s so you can’t blame it on society, the internet, and porn. Also, I’m a conservative.
I’m not saying what happened is right, but I am saying it’s not the fault of “liberal” vs. “conservative”
January 21, 2011 at 9:15 am
Don’t listen to asdf^2, Marty. That loser has obviously never heard of Alfred Kinsey – a liberal par excellence – and his studies on child sexuality. Liberals subscribe almost religiously to Darwin – who was a great support for Marx, Engels, Stalin, and Mao in their philosophical position that Man is simply an animal; this pillar of belief permits them to think of children as lab rats and testing samples, while they think of adults as workhorses and brood sows. How else could ANYONE manage to justify sex between young children while being observed by adults?
January 21, 2011 at 11:08 am
Per former President Bill Clinton….oral sex is not sex! Consequently ….this is what happens when public figures make such absurd statements….How sad! It really is time to improve the school systems by weeding out the incompetent teachers that have been protected from “discharge” by union enforced “tenure”…
January 21, 2011 at 9:10 am | | Report comment
Suspended? Why not fired!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 9:13 am | | Report comment
We need to get hold of our standards quickly. For generations, the “No sex before marriage” rule worked and it can work again if we want it to. I refuse to accept the arguement of the condom and birth control dispensers who say, “the kiods are going to do it anyway”, That is admitting defeat before the issue is addressed! For generations the “aspirin held firmly between the knees worked just fine!
January 21, 2011 at 9:30 am | | Report comment
Blacks and mexicans have no standards or morals.
January 22, 2011 at 8:11 am
This doesnt suprise me at all, with the social decline,God stripped from our schools,liberal media and the liberal mind set. REPENT Jesus resus returns May 21, 2011
January 21, 2011 at 9:39 am | | Report comment
Next, the NEA and Teachers Union will be telling teachers it’s OK for the children to test the quality of the shcool issued rubbers in the classroom.
January 21, 2011 at 10:04 am | | Report comment
I thought that Bill Clinton redefined oral sex as “not having sex”. Is is or isn’t it? We’re on a snowball headed straight for Hell.
January 21, 2011 at 10:11 am | | Report comment
Is no one wondering about the parents of these children. I think CPS should be called in. Why the teacher did nothing still is a puzzle. But blaming the teacher for allowing it should be shared with the parents who obviously are not watching their children.
January 21, 2011 at 10:47 am | | Report comment
Yes, by all means discipline the teacher, but also investigate the mothers (this being Oakland, the fathers are probably unknown.) These kids didn’t just come up with this on their own; find out how they got the idea.
January 21, 2011 at 10:58 am | | Report comment
This is so hot!
January 21, 2011 at 11:25 am | | Report comment
This is totally disgusting, The teacher should be thrown in jail. And we trust these people with our children everyday.
January 21, 2011 at 11:41 am | | Report comment
Now, let me see…what a surprise…GOD taken out of the schools…wonder what the next base activity will take place…we need to put the brakes on…this train is headed downhill…but the “educated” believe this progressiveness is just great…and I suspect that some of them secretly approve of this new found freedom.
January 21, 2011 at 11:43 am | | Report comment
Look for the union label…in the pile of kiddie clothes on the floor. I’m sure they’ll be able to fire the teacher after two years of legal hoops with full pay throughout.
January 21, 2011 at 12:40 pm | | Report comment
Why are there only law suits when it concerns the church. I want to know this teachers name. She was ONLY suspended? She should be in jail. Can we sue the public schools out of existance. where’s SNAP those money grabbers.
January 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm | | Report comment
I bet the teacher is a progressive democrat
January 21, 2011 at 1:07 pm | | Report comment
That isn’t a fair bet. Firstly it is Oakland California and secondly it is a teacher. Both of those are high indicators of a more liberal leaning.
January 21, 2011 at 3:11 pm
F AROCK
January 21, 2011 at 1:27 pm | | Report comment
wow David in NYC, you are an idiot!
January 21, 2011 at 2:29 pm | | Report comment
“The Christian God is a being of terrific character – cruel, vindictive, capricious, and unjust” ~ Thomas Jefferson
http://911essentials.com
January 21, 2011 at 2:34 pm | | Report comment
And yet no one ever mentioned the home environment is most likely to blame.
TV used to teach, mentor, and uplift. Now, it does completely the opposite, but you cannot tell, nor does anyone care.
January 21, 2011 at 3:16 pm | | Report comment
Hey, Oakland School District —– Suspended? Not jailed? This pervert should have been dragged by the hair straight to jail and held on NO BAIL. What the Hell is wrong with you people in California, anyway? The teacher should be held accountable for his/her actions and charged with as many individual charges as there were children present in the classroom when the disgusting acts took place. Let us say, twenty five children, times ten years for each charge of contributing to the delinquacy of a minor as well as a like number of separate charges of lewd acts, means the teacher ishould be going away FOREVER.
January 21, 2011 at 4:50 pm | | Report comment
I see a lot of “Well, it’s California” comments. First, I’m a native of California. I’m 45. I also used to teach in Oakland. The idea that this is “California” and not wherever it is that you live is silly. What happens here, the bankrupt towns, state, the lack of morals, the crime, the illegals….it’s coming to you, believe me. It didn’t used to be this way here. California was an amazing place to grow up. Now, just in LA County, they spent 600 MILLION on welfare for the children of illegal immigrants in 2010. One county. Not schools. Not medical. Not prisons. Welfare. Oakland is a liberal hell hole. They’d elect a liberal criminal before a person who who could actually make a difference. But it didn’t used to be this way. Which is my point. California is a bankrupt hell hole. But it wasn’t always this way. Watch as your neighborhoods, your states and towns change little by little by little. 20 Years ago it took 80 minutes to drive from Sacramento to San Francisco. Now it takes as much as three hours. Stop and ask directions? Good chance the person doesn’t even speak English. The other day on the freeway there was an accident–but they couldn’t find out what happened because neither the drivers nor any of their six passengers spoke English–they had to wait for a translator. This is 600 miles from the Mexican border. The solution? There’s a huge push to hire ONLY bilingual officers. Ballots, street signs, 30 spanish speaking stations on cable—-kids performing oral sex in the 2nd grade. It’s all coming to a town near you.
January 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm | | Report comment
um…yeah about that california comment? nothing happened to my kids in california but when we moved to wisconsin it was a different story so it’s not “california”. no one knows what happened or will know until the truth comes out. everyone is just tossing stores around. it could have been a kid who had been molested. it could have been the teacher. it could have been anything. the only thing is why didn’t the teacher stop it? how did the teacher NOT know if he was in the classroom and the others were too? something is fishy about the whole thing.
January 21, 2011 at 5:45 pm | | Report comment
Yes Sylvia, thanks to the liberal philosophy of “anything goes” except for the “old-fashioned” morals that conservatives still believe in”. When are we ever going to learn? Liberals/socialists/communists/marxists have no conscience about our children or anything good for that matter. Their only concern is: domination and control. Keep their voters stupid and compliant.
January 21, 2011 at 7:24 pm | | Report comment
New Reporter, can perform a sex act on me anytime; place; day, or; time
January 21, 2011 at 8:03 pm | | Report comment
And they say 2nd hand smoke is dangerous. All of this new age cultural and diversity training that goes on in these liberal schools these days is inherently immoral.
These little innocent children will all have STD’s by age ten.
What in the he// was that teacher doing while this was going on? I can’t bear to guess what that teacher was doing…
And WHAT is going on here? Enough ……………….Already……………………….
January 21, 2011 at 8:41 pm | | Report comment
it’s easy to understand why
they are_negroe_democrats
January 21, 2011 at 9:48 pm | | Report comment
Execution! Enough said!
January 21, 2011 at 10:53 pm | | Report comment
No more America Rise!
January 21, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Da, we live in a society, here in America, that is constantly in all fronts breaking and carving new paths/rules that go contra to normally acceptable behavior! We are dysfunctional with no sense of a universal moral compass — and act shocked when a new path hits the market, usually an off shoot of some other ill conceived behavior, i.e, like condoms for kids, already in practice.
January 22, 2011 at 5:00 am | | Report comment
We threw God out of our schools, our churches and our homes. What do you expect? We’re told this type of behavior is natural and to just accept it. Heck, even our schools are told to teach how to have sex to students too young to know how to deal with their emotions. Where are the parents who will take responsibility for the training of their children in decency and good moral conduct? Where are the adults who will show some moral values and restraint in their lives? Instead we act like animals, driven by “instinct” and refuse to put ourselves in submission to God’s instruction and values that benefit our lives.
WHAT DO WE EXPECT?!?
January 22, 2011 at 7:19 am | | Report comment
Lets face it. This sort of thing may have happened in our Grand Parents time & before. It was just swept under the rug then. People where far to embarrassed to even report or publicize it.
January 22, 2011 at 7:27 am | | Report comment
But oral sex isn’t really sex. Bubba said so, so it must be true!
January 22, 2011 at 7:37 am | | Report comment
I cannot believe that a person on here commented about “demonizing sex”, “ashamed of our naked bodies”, “urges”, etc. This person is part of the problem. We are talking about CHILDREN ! ! ! NOWHERE, EVER should the 2 words; “Children” and “Sex” be placed ANYWHERE near eachother ! That is totally SICK in the worst possible way. Man, talk about a corrupt society. God help this planet.
January 22, 2011 at 8:15 am | | Report comment
Umm, you yourself just placed the words “children” and “sex” in close proximity.
January 25, 2011 at 6:16 am
This happened because it is considered wrong to teach morality or ethics to our children. That is considered to be inappropriate and judgmental. So, this is what you end up with. Let this teacher go to prison and not be allowed back into his neighborhood after he pays for his crimes, just like the other perverts.
January 22, 2011 at 8:41 am | | Report comment
Supended? She needs to go to jail as a sex offender.
January 22, 2011 at 8:42 am | | Report comment
Where are the criminal charges… and why is the teachers name being withheld, he is not a miner, whose protecting whom and why? the teacher is certainly open for child abuse, and sexual solicitation and possibly sexual assault of a miner. Solicitation being obvious as the teacher must have encouraged the acts and assault likely if the teacher touched or physically assisted at anytime. I would also be interested to know if there were any pictures taken including, monitors in the class room… if there were then the teacher is also subject to engaging in child pornography.
Indefinite suspension as discipline in this matter only indicates the need to discipline the administration for their lack of judgment and supervision of this teacher. It is highly doubtful that this would be the first indication or breech of protocol and sexual content/abuse engaged in by this teacher. This teacher should have been dismissed without any question, once it was determined that this conduct was permitted in his classroom. Makes one wonder about what else is going on in this school and what the administration is allowing to occur.
January 22, 2011 at 8:56 am | | Report comment
David in NYC is the poster boy for projection. The line about our society being ‘too repressed’ proves that he is the child that needs to grow up.
If he has children, they are probably trying to raise HIM.
January 22, 2011 at 10:21 am | | Report comment
Well, firing the teacher will damage his/her self esteem so we can’t do that. California, you made your own bed…
January 22, 2011 at 10:38 am | | Report comment
To David in NYC………repressing our natural desires (urges)!! OK, my natural desire (urge) is to kill someone. Should that be repressed? After all sex, theft, lying, killing is all part of my “natural desires(urges)”. You and your ilk are the reason this country is headed the way it is.
January 22, 2011 at 11:04 am | | Report comment
This IS Oakland. They were 15 or 16.
January 22, 2011 at 11:18 am | | Report comment
But, it wasn’t sex… Bill Clinton said so!
January 22, 2011 at 2:46 pm | | Report comment
MTV is not to blame. Parents are to blame. First of all, you as a parent have control over what your child watches. It is easier to blame MTV for your children acting out, instead of accepting responsibility for your own poor parenting.
January 22, 2011 at 5:37 pm | | Report comment
I hope that the parents find that teacher, and bring justice their own way.
January 22, 2011 at 10:45 pm | | Report comment
Second-graders? Naked in the classroom? Oral sex? No. No way. This is a hoax. Everyone remain calm.
January 21, 2011 at 12:41 am | | Report comment
How naive – I’m sure they learned to do this from some lowlife adult pervert.
January 21, 2011 at 5:53 am | | Report comment
I believe it was former President Clinton who popularized and made “oral sex” a household word. This is his legacy.
January 21, 2011 at 6:17 am
Sorry- All they have to do is step out onto the public streets in CA to get their lessons!
January 21, 2011 at 6:52 am
“…lowlife adult pervert”
…hmm like the ones in every major Hollywood studio?
January 21, 2011 at 6:52 am
Yeah, their teacher.
January 21, 2011 at 6:55 am
It’s PUBLIC SCHOOLS in OAKLAND……..what do you expect?
January 21, 2011 at 6:58 am
Yes, President Clinton!
January 21, 2011 at 7:01 am
Bill Clinton’s foul legacy still on display.
January 21, 2011 at 7:18 am
According to the Clintonistas what the 2nd graders were doing wasn’t sex.
January 21, 2011 at 7:34 am
@melatr7
Especially in San Francisco and Palm Springs.
January 21, 2011 at 8:12 am
They probably learned this by watching their parents!
January 21, 2011 at 2:04 pm
“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up.” ~ Lily Tomlin
http://911essentials.com
January 21, 2011 at 6:49 am | | Report comment
God is taken out of school and it has been downhill every since.
January 21, 2011 at 7:11 am
Yes, God would’ve stopped those kids, that’s for sure.
January 21, 2011 at 7:37 am
Totally agree. When 1 lady got the Bible out in 1962, drop-out rates, teen pregnancy, drug use, divorce, crime…EVERYTHING..shot up…INSTANTLY! If 1 person can get the Bible out….why can’t 1 person fight & get it back in? THE PROOF IS IN FRONT OF OUR FACE…..EVERYDAY!
January 21, 2011 at 7:38 am
Is that the same god that says ….
Deuteronomy 22:13-21 – God demands that we kill girls who are not virgins when they marry.
or
Deuteronomy 21:18-21 – God demands that we kill all disobedient teenagers.
That god?
January 21, 2011 at 7:44 am
Gee, god is still floating around the catholic church and that hasn’t seemed to stop loathsome behavior on the part of perverted adults. Gods and Goddesses have nothing to do with what goes on in schools. Deal with it.
January 21, 2011 at 7:51 am
Typical liberal interpretation! When God is present (meaning we use the standards that God presents in the Bible), things always go better for people. When we reject His standards in favor of our individualistic, selfish, nebulous human standards based not on any real sound morals but rather on what “works” or makes me “happy” right now, these toddlers having sex is the result as well as a slew of other societal problems. It’s your choice. Reject God and you’ll end up unhappy and living like an animal. Just because you see a church building doesn’t mean the people inside are using God’s standard. God is not wrong just because his people or anyone else fails to follow his standard. Fact is, whenever they do follow his ways, it ALWAYS goes better. when they don’t it ALWAYS makes life worse.
January 21, 2011 at 10:52 am
@Dr. Bombay — you’ve taken those verses out of context. We can play that game with your liberal, big-government loving gods. I could easily pick apart just about any big icon that you have in politics, academia, etc. I don’t have the time or energy. And you wouldn’t be able to stand the same scrutiny that you like to apply to others.
January 21, 2011 at 10:56 am
@Bill
The Bible might not be the answer. The strict rule that the Bible brought with it is honestly what we should be looking for. Allow teachers and schools to bring down actual consequence that is also followed up on at home. When you have a school suspend a child for a behavioral issue and then both parents are out at work all day turning the suspension into a vacation, the kid doesn’t get the hint. Parents and schools should step it up, realize that our future as a nation is in their hands, and take pride in molding those children and helping them realize life is not about instant gratification and total satisfaction but rather about work, consequence, and looking to where your now will lead you tomorrow.
January 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Not a hoax, and thank you liberal left.
January 21, 2011 at 7:12 am | | Report comment
Your unionized, 100% liberal voting California teachers in action!!
January 21, 2011 at 7:26 am | | Report comment
…and it will take a long time to process this teacher out of their school system thanks to the Union.
January 21, 2011 at 8:13 am
Suspended with pay probably. Then a nice little retirement package for all their trouble.
January 21, 2011 at 8:49 am
Gosh I hope you’re right Kev
January 21, 2011 at 7:58 am | | Report comment
‘Taint no hoax, Kevin. It’s but the sad results of our steadily declining cultural values. Gives new (old) meaning to the Biblical phrase about reaping the “whirlwind,” what? We reap precisely what we sow; it’s a law of nature that has nothing to do with left or right politics. The only difference is that conservatives begrudgingly allow the truth of the law, whereas liberals steadfastly refuse to believe the truth that’s right under their own noses.
January 21, 2011 at 8:18 am | | Report comment
Well, not “declining” cultural values. A lady friend told me about growing up in Oakland during the 1950s, where the adults would leave groups of children (age 5-12) in a recreational room. Everybody would have sex–the “virtuous” girls woudn’t give it away for free, instead demanding payment. It was clear to her the adults knew exactly what was happening. And this was a Sunday CHURCH (!) recreational room.
January 21, 2011 at 8:55 am
Yeah Kevin, just remain calm. Don’t get upset. Just put your head in a hole in the ground. If you ignore it, it will just go away, right?
Wrong! People need to wake up. Our culture is not going into the gutter, it’s already there! People need to take a stand and say enough is enough. Legalalizing drugs is NOT OK! Protecting pedophile’s rights to internet porn and deviant TV shows is NOT OK! Promoting and honoring sexual deviancy is NOT OK!
January 21, 2011 at 8:21 am | | Report comment
Kevin- I hope you are right. The whole thing is so unbelievable, as are some of the comments.
January 21, 2011 at 8:31 am | | Report comment
how do second graders even know what to do? no way this makes sense!
January 21, 2011 at 12:48 am | | Report comment
BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS ARE TEACHING THIS IN KINDERGARTEN!!!
January 21, 2011 at 5:44 am | | Report comment
Thatt’s right. They started with bananas, remember?
January 21, 2011 at 6:57 am
You are correct. I have a kindergartener in LA County and I can confirm this. I tried to sit in the classroom while the sex ed was being taught and I was told that I could not. Reason: that children should feel free to report any sexual abuse by paretns and if parents are in the classroom then the child will not speak up. I had to schedule a meeting with the principal to review the materials being taught and I was only allowed 20 minutes. No lie. This is my experience.
January 21, 2011 at 7:23 am
Um, no they’re not. I would craft a real response to this, but I’m actually laughing too hard at your comment.
January 21, 2011 at 7:28 am
No. The kids know what to do WAY before kindergarten or second grade.
January 21, 2011 at 9:01 am
Seen a rap video lately? Listened to just about any music lately? They know exactly what to do. Start holding the culture these kids are brought up in accountable. Hey- drop it like it’s hot and enjoy the twurkulator!
January 21, 2011 at 5:46 am | | Report comment
Wake up doofus! How can you be so ignorant of what’s going on in public schools?
January 21, 2011 at 6:27 am | | Report comment
Read the top of the Drudge Report today about the new MTV series Skins and you may get a clue.
Oh, and I think that there may be some of that going on at home. Maybe they should pay a visit to the parents.
Best
January 21, 2011 at 6:36 am | | Report comment
No Child Left Behind was Bush AND Ted Kennedy. It was bi-partisan.
January 21, 2011 at 6:48 am
It’s the race involved, Ivan…you know..their priorities in life…Food, Sex and Clothes.
January 21, 2011 at 12:23 pm | | Report comment
How racist of you! D:<
January 22, 2011 at 6:40 pm
You can blame Bill Clinton for his no child left behind policy.
January 21, 2011 at 1:44 am | | Report comment
That’s a great one! Funniest thing I’ve heard this year.
January 21, 2011 at 5:28 am | | Report comment
Michael Jackson left no childs behind not Bill … oh yea i get it sorry
January 21, 2011 at 5:30 am | | Report comment
You guys are tearing me up. Lots of material here.
January 21, 2011 at 5:39 am
No child left behind is bush, #1 and #2 they don’t teach sex acts in school at that age, that myth was debunked a decade ago. Seriously? Read the newspaper before you make uorself look so ignorant
January 21, 2011 at 5:59 am
You mean no child’s behind left alone.
January 21, 2011 at 5:52 am | | Report comment
While George W. Bush signed no child left behind into law, it was Ted Kennedy who was the driving force and main author of the no child left behind law. I am sure you would attribute it to Bush if the only news paper you read is the New York Times. Maybe you should do some real research so you do not make a fool out of “yourself”, Research Department.
January 21, 2011 at 6:34 am
Kennedy was the “driving” force, was he? Jeez where to begin with that comment…
January 21, 2011 at 6:45 am
No child left behind was written by Ted Kennedy… look it up… the program that has lefties all riled up was written by one of your own!
January 21, 2011 at 6:39 am | | Report comment
Don’t forget the co-author of No Child Left Behind was none other than our own local Congresscritter George Miller.
January 21, 2011 at 9:02 am
At that age they shouldn’t even know what oral sex is. My anger goes toward the teacher. He could of stopped this from happening, but he didn’t. There is something wrong there. He maybe a pedophile in the making. This incident sure as hell proves it. The teacher deserves every punishment he gets. They need to do more checks on teachers and make the standard of being a teacher harder to try to prevent from happening again.
January 21, 2011 at 1:53 am | | Report comment
Why do you assume that the teacher was male?
January 21, 2011 at 5:26 am | | Report comment
Brandon may not have known he was a male. It is proper English to use the masculine form when gender is unknown.
January 21, 2011 at 5:41 am
KB, that used to be the case. However, feminism has fought against it as sexist. I’m sure they don’t mind the use of the male pronoun here, though.
January 21, 2011 at 6:10 am
Why do you assume the teacher is a “He?”
January 21, 2011 at 5:59 am | | Report comment
Is it not possible that the teacher was just on duty and might have stepped outside the door for a short period of time where upon return the class has turned into a circus, mostly because parents are not interested in teaching respect. This is more of an example of parental ineptitude. To correct this though is even harder than just firing the teacher not to mention that Sex Ed is now being taught in some school districts as early as Kindergarten without any moral stipulations, however having government funded schools teaching KIDS morality is even more scary than what happened in the class room. So they chose the easy way out to hush the parents instead of going after the real blame for fear of losing government money (local/state/federal).
January 21, 2011 at 6:10 am | | Report comment
@Allen. That makes absolutely no sense. If the teacher “stepped out” when they stepped “back in” they should have immediately rounded everyone up and gone to administration and probably the police. If what you propose was the case, why did the Administration take a week to catch wind of it? I will agree that most parents have no involvement in their kids lives and that causes a huge problem. However, we no longer have any integrity in our schools. Teacher’s unions have boxed administration’s in a corner from taking any action against a poor teacher and placing more emphasis on children passing standardized tests then teaching them anything. They have also tied the hands of teachers who do care. They have no authority to control behavior that occurs in their classroom anymore. I think that there is a lot more to this story than you see in this article. The school district is probably covering up a lot of info in fear of a lawsuit.
January 21, 2011 at 6:50 am
@ SEAN C.
Agreed this story is a lot deeper it is a multi-folded issue, federal and state mandates that are wrapped in money, the school system is about indoctrination and no matter how good the intentions when big money (political or corporate) come together with education no matter how the educator feels there is a push based on aforementioned mandates this by its very nature is indoctrination.
Integrity is gone because federal government/state government has no integrity and those institutions are characterized by the way the people vote which in turn points the finger back at the voting block. If we want to change things it is time to stop pinning the problem on a red herring and take responsibility and fix it.
This will be hard it will require people to realize that government no matter how small or big has no business in the class room because government involvement will bring about indoctrination no matter how innocuous it starts.
By understanding the problem at a root level we will be able to tackle it and remove it. We also have to look at how we got to this problem and see if the problem is a symptom of a larger scale system or just an anomaly. My very humble opinion this 2nd grade problem is a symptom because though this story surfaced in Oakland, there has been a degradation across the nation and it was only a matter of time that it would surface some where.
January 21, 2011 at 7:12 am
First it said the teacher WAS present, not that he had just left the room for a minute. How long must one be gone for an entire classroom of 6 and 7 year olds to all get together and agree to take off their clothing, then all take the time to do it, then converse with one another about sex acts, then pick two people to do it, then start doing it? I doubt many knew what oral sex was at 6 or 7 years old, someone instructed them on what to do. The ineptitude is on your part. This was not sex education. You must not have any children, and if so you must be another NAMBLA member. School is to teach an academic education, not have children perform sex acts forced upon them by the adults they are suppose to trust.
January 21, 2011 at 7:47 am
@Ghostsouls
NAMBLA huh, having and not having children makes no difference, up to me I would push NAMBLA into the ocean that has been chummed with a three day slick. The teacher is to blame on a level, I am really not trying to mitigate this teacher’s responsibility, but to state the ineptitude is on my part is not reading critically, absolutely the ineptitude is in part the parents, are they not part of the voting block whether they are voting or not, are the parents not responsible for the education of their child especially when it comes to morals and ethics so how in part is this not a parental ineptitude?
January 21, 2011 at 8:24 am
Brandon,
Fewer than 25% of public school teachers are male.
January 21, 2011 at 6:13 am | | Report comment
Most of the teachers involved in this type of behavior are female….look at “interested participant” web site if you don’t believe that is true.
January 21, 2011 at 6:21 am | | Report comment
Doesn’t really matter if what you say is true or not, in this case it was a male.
January 21, 2011 at 7:49 am
Teachers go through all kinds of “checks” improving on them would be difficult. However, I agree something is wrong with this teacher, No competent teacher would leave 2nd graders alone for more than a few seconds. If this really happened then the teacher should be decertified, dismissed, and allowed no further jobs with children. What happened may not have been strictly illegal in the teachers part (assuming out of control class) but it smells of voyeurism to me.
January 21, 2011 at 6:58 am | | Report comment
‘..maybe a pedophile in the making…” Are you freakin’ kidding??? Only a sick, twisted pedophile would alow that to happen!
January 21, 2011 at 7:04 am | | Report comment
who said the teacher was a man??????
January 21, 2011 at 7:18 am | | Report comment
Unless the teacher was a hot chick, then attitudes would sadly be different…
January 21, 2011 at 7:48 am | | Report comment
Wow, the assumptions made in your comment are absolutely idiotic.
They “shouldn’t” even know what oral sex is? Why not? Please tell me why you think that’s a moral rule that should be followed.
How does this incident “prove” that the teacher was a pedophile in the making? It doesn’t. You are totally ignorant and your comments are wholly irresponsible.
January 21, 2011 at 2:38 pm | | Report comment
I think the teacher must have been more than present in both cases . These aren’t things second graders would do even with zero supervision . If these things really happened than the teacher orchestrated it . Way beyond second grade imagination level .
January 21, 2011 at 2:02 am | | Report comment
When someone finds out the real story, please report back. The information we have so far is phony.
January 21, 2011 at 4:07 am | | Report comment
“The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed a standard citizenry, to put down dissent and originality” ~ H. L. Mencken
http://911essentials.com
January 21, 2011 at 5:24 am | | Report comment
“Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It’s like feeding a dog on his own tail. It won’t fatten the dog.” – Mark Twain
January 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm | | Report comment
no way
January 21, 2011 at 5:28 am | | Report comment
While this should NEVER have happened in any school, keep in mind that many parents and child care-givers allow children to watch anything they want on TV, and there is LOTS to see on that ‘ole “boob tube” (gee, where’d they get that term?). The kids undoubtedly learned this behavior from what they saw on television – broadcast or recorded.
But for a teacher to allow this????? Words fail me.
January 21, 2011 at 5:29 am | | Report comment
In the 1950s a boob was considered a stupid person, hence the term boob tube became popular as a reference to watching stupid shows.
January 21, 2011 at 7:16 am | | Report comment
“The kids undoubtedly learned this behavior from what they saw on television – broadcast or recorded.”
Undoubtedly? Again, you are clueless. There is more than one way for kids to have figured this out, including direct experimentation. To blame television is just an assumption. Do you have any evidence that they learned if from TV? No, of course not.
“But for a teacher to allow this?????”
Maybe you should read the story before it becomes clear just how ignorant you are. The teacher was not aware this was going on.
January 21, 2011 at 2:41 pm | | Report comment
“…before it becomes clear just how ignorant you are.”
Her ignorance is not so clear to me.
The teacher *says* he was not aware this was going on. His career is on the line, why would he admit to this irresponsibility? In fact, I think it’s appropriate to test what he says. How is it possible for a teacher to be unaware of this?
January 22, 2011 at 10:47 am
Teacher was suspended? Why not arrested?
January 21, 2011 at 5:29 am | | Report comment
Exactly!
I understand innocent until proven guilty. But this teacher should have been arrested and charged (not convicted without a fair trial) with child abuse.
If there is any truth to this story then the teachers union better not throw their support behind this teacher otherwise EVERYONE will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the unions are NOT looking out for the kids like they keep claiming.
January 21, 2011 at 6:39 am | | Report comment
Since when do the unions claim to be looking out for kids. They look out for their members, first and foremost.
January 21, 2011 at 6:54 am
“. Liberals subscribe almost religiously to Darwin – who was a great support for Marx, Engels, Stalin, and Mao in their philosophical position that Man is simply an animal”
Do you know what a logical fallacy is? I suspect not. Your argument seems to be that since “liberals” subsribe to Darwin and since Darwin (allegedly) supported Marx, etc. that anything Darwin or that liberals believe in must be wrong. Your argument is logically fallacious.
Human beings are animals. We have minds that allow us to reason and make decision. Unfortunately, we are still mostly irrational (as your post demonstrates).
To suggest that “liberals” are to blame because they “subscribe to Darwin” is totally stupid. To suggest that all liberals believe the same things is totally stupid (I would call myself “liberal” but don’t accept much of what Kinsey said).
BTW, if you don’t accept the theory of evolution, then I think you’re ignorant and your inability to produce logical arguments is good evidence of that. Just because I think the theory of evolution is the best explanation for life doesn’t mean that I am a Marxist. It’s unbelievable to me that you could suggest that anyone who “subscribes to Darwin” must be a liberal and thus must also support philosophies of Marx, etc.
January 21, 2011 at 2:48 pm
The teacher was ‘suspended’, not fired?
January 21, 2011 at 5:29 am | | Report comment
The Teacher’s Union. Probably will take years in court to fire this teacher.
January 21, 2011 at 6:19 am | | Report comment
It’s hilarious that you think it’ll take that long to fire a teacher. The union isn’t that powerful, dear. Yeah, it’s powerful, but teachers can be fired, and quickly.
January 21, 2011 at 7:32 am
Suspension only… It’s a union thing. The unions don’t care about the safety of your children, only about keeping dues paying perverts on the payroll.
January 21, 2011 at 6:24 am | | Report comment
Why is this not believable? Middle schoolers have oral sex all the time in my town in school. I also know two individuals that had oral sex 20 years ago in middle school in school. They know about it especially in the urban areas.
January 21, 2011 at 5:29 am | | Report comment
Middle school, I can see. But 2nd Grade? These are 7 year olds! IF this is true, all I can think is that they got hold of some pornography and were just emulating it. And “naked in the classroom” could mean anything… they could have just had shirts off, I doubt they were running around the classroom in their birthday suits.
January 21, 2011 at 6:10 am | | Report comment
Not that I agree with oral sex in middle school, but I can understand that as hormones levels increase during those years dragging down brain cells in the process. But 2nd graders???? These are 7-8 year olds! They barely know how to tie their shoes and blow their own noses!
January 21, 2011 at 6:15 am | | Report comment
This is not middle school. The article states it is elementary school. Second grade would be about 7-8 years old.
January 21, 2011 at 6:24 am | | Report comment
Well put yourself in a teachers shoes and if suddenly walk into a situation where you unattended kids are behaving this way what the hell are you suppose to do that you don’t think you won’t get the blame in the first place – sweep it under the rug and hope it doesn’t happen again. Blame the parents, not the teacher.
January 21, 2011 at 5:30 am | | Report comment
Are you kidding me? Our kids are supposed to be kept safe by a supervising adult in school and you think the teacher shouldn’t have stopped this and reported this so it could be fixed? You must be a member of those communist teachers unions who only care about teachers pay and benefits and couldn’t give a damn about the children. Only a union teacher would refer to themselves as “Mr. Garrison”. Your attitude is exactly what is wrong with public schools and why we should go to a system where the parents choose any accredited school and their tax dollars go to that school and bad teachers like you get FIRED!
January 21, 2011 at 6:04 am | | Report comment
Actually I’m an union hating rational republican whose not employed in education… but you didn’t answer my question that “if you were in that teacher’s shoes how would you have handled the situation?” … it’s absurd to think there is a correct procedure for this in the teacher’s handbook.
January 21, 2011 at 6:35 am
I can picture the Teacher walking in and not knowing what to do. She/He could not touch the kids to break it up. I don’t know what I would do.
January 21, 2011 at 6:21 am | | Report comment
This is what the influence of socialist teachers in our government schools is leadiong to. We have many unqualified and unfit teachers who are only there to collect a paycheck and tenure, while dumbing down our kids.
January 21, 2011 at 5:30 am | | Report comment
Klinton’s said it is NOT sex; nobody will be blaming him, so it must be the fault of talk radio!
January 21, 2011 at 5:30 am | | Report comment
This must be some fabrication. Who knows of any second grader who’s willing to strip naked in front of their classmates? I think some child’s imagination must’ve spurred this incident.
January 21, 2011 at 5:32 am | | Report comment
uh….1) bill clinton didnt do ‘no child left behind’ and THAT, regardless, has nothing to do with this.
2) with the internet and television being what it is, of course children know what oral sex is. Usually not second graders, agreed; but I dont think anyone can deny the pervasive nature of sex in our society.
3) I cant believe people are not taking this seriously, and assuming it to be a hoax. It could possibly be a pedophile type of situation, or maybe the kids found a porn stash at home. I dont understand why this is so unbelievable.
January 21, 2011 at 5:32 am | | Report comment
need to show a mug shotof the perp…. this need to be widely publicized.
January 21, 2011 at 5:33 am | | Report comment
Wow, between the City of Berkeley offerin complimentary sex changes to it’s workers and now this…I swear California is going straight to hell!
January 21, 2011 at 5:34 am | | Report comment
It IS California, so normal does’t apply.
January 21, 2011 at 5:34 am | | Report comment
“Normal” is a setting on a washing machine – especially in CA!
January 21, 2011 at 5:46 am | | Report comment
Second grade groids = 16-year-olds, nome sane?
January 21, 2011 at 5:35 am | | Report comment
Burn in hell
January 21, 2011 at 7:22 am | | Report comment
ALB — Ok you have my attention. How do you KNOW the info is phony?
January 21, 2011 at 5:35 am | | Report comment
Come on, this is no win for this teacher. Do nothing, fired, go to try and stop it, probably get arrested for inappropriate touching.
January 21, 2011 at 5:35 am | | Report comment
BS Brandon. A responsible adult teacher would tell the kids to get their close on and immediately take them to the principals office so the parents could be called in along with the police. That is what adults do. They stop it and prevent it. Please tell me you are not a teacher and that you don’t have children!
January 21, 2011 at 6:08 am | | Report comment
If you’re still sending your children to government schools you can expect this and worse.
Welcome to OmeriKa.
http://911essentials.com
January 21, 2011 at 5:36 am | | Report comment
Get your kids and your grandkids OUT of government-run schools!
January 21, 2011 at 9:00 am | | Report comment
Kids have always done stuff like this but not in an open class room. We have these politicians saying they want to protect kids, but the kids always find sex on their own.
January 21, 2011 at 5:36 am | | Report comment
If this did happen, I would recommend that law enforcement officials investigate the “parents/families” of the kids involved. How does a 7/8 year old know these things? The only way is if they observed it at home/community! At the risk of being accused of racism, does anyone care to proffer a guess at who these kids are?
January 21, 2011 at 5:36 am | | Report comment
In other words, the teacher orchestrated the whole thing, was probably filming it for sale, and has now been suspended — indefinitely — with full pay and pension plan intact.
Hooray for the Teacher’s Union.
January 21, 2011 at 5:36 am | | Report comment
They were only doing what they see at home.
January 21, 2011 at 5:36 am | | Report comment
Well, this is truly disgusting! But, this is the Liberal/Progressive agenda. Look at MTV now with their “Skins” show…underage drinking and sex. Come on…Californication has been slowly going in the gutter because of those people in charge AND dragging the rest of the country into raunchy behavior.
January 21, 2011 at 5:37 am | | Report comment
Even if this isn’t true; what’s desperately pathetic is that it’s NOT unbelievable.
Liberal/Progressives support this lawless debauchery in their iconoclast agenda. They secretly fund NAMBLA and many other anti-cultural establishments in pursuit of total destruction of all religions that advocate heterosexually monogamous relationships (i.e. families).
January 21, 2011 at 5:51 am | | Report comment
#blamepalin
January 21, 2011 at 5:37 am | | Report comment
The teacher should be executed and the superintendent should be imprisoned. The parents of the children should be financially compensated for therapy the children should undergo.
Even the insinuation of this degree of debauchery is grotesque. This has nothing to do with freedom of choice. These are naive children who learned this behavior via observation or instruction. How weak and perverted a society we’ve become. Any city that tolerates such activity deserves every ounce of hell fire the Lord of Righteousness rains down upon it.
January 21, 2011 at 5:38 am | | Report comment
The teacher is at fault for not stopping it, but we all know that the kids learned this behavior at home. Execute the parentsl!
January 21, 2011 at 5:43 am | | Report comment
Tarred, I meant tarred. Geez, I hat when I do that.
January 21, 2011 at 5:54 am
You get my point. The “adult” responsible for this needs to pay a severe price. If it’s found the teacher somehow promoted/encouraged this then I would definitely support the death penalty.
People need to start paying with blood for their crimes against society. We have laws regarding “corrupting minors” but how much more devastating it is when someone sexually corrupts a child? These actions twist the minds of children causing unnecessary difficulty in life. As a society, we should not tolerate actions that cause children to stumble needlessly and with impunity in the name of freedom.
January 21, 2011 at 5:56 am
The parents should be compensated?? The parents should be tar and feathered and neutered.
January 21, 2011 at 5:53 am | | Report comment
I’ve made some assumptions as have we all. My premise is that the teacher led them in this behavior and therefore most culpable. However, if its found they corrupted the children then I agree 100% with you. Ultimately, as I’ve said, whichever adult is most responsible they should pay with their blood so that a message is sent that tolerance has its limits.
January 21, 2011 at 6:01 am
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Typical for Oakland
January 21, 2011 at 5:41 am | | Report comment
According to who? Children often live up to others’ expectations.
January 21, 2011 at 7:21 am | | Report comment
Chloe, do you have a job? You have a comment for everything yet you understand nothing.
January 21, 2011 at 8:11 am
Monkey see, Monkey do. Sex is on tv, movies, in magazines, and in photos. Kids see this everywhere and begin at home. Chances most kids don’t have a male parent in their home and a mother who may or may not have multiple children with different fathers. They
January 21, 2011 at 5:41 am | | Report comment
And people don’t think there isn’t a problem with the teacher unions across the land. Wake Up. Unions are slowly destroying this country and I mean all unions. Second graders naked in class with the union member teacher present – Time to take back the schools and squash the unions.
January 21, 2011 at 5:43 am | | Report comment
They are only doing what they have been taught in school to believe is normal behaviour, how can you punish the children ?
January 21, 2011 at 5:43 am | | Report comment
What’s the big deal? This is CA, isn’t that what they want to teach kids there?
January 21, 2011 at 5:45 am | | Report comment
Is anyone really surprised after the moral decay in this country, often led by the bay area of California. Political correctness was likely involved in the inaction by the teacher.
January 21, 2011 at 5:46 am | | Report comment
Here comes more material for another, “Movie of the Week,”
January 21, 2011 at 5:46 am | | Report comment
California – HELL on Earth…
January 21, 2011 at 5:47 am | | Report comment
California, the land where foreign nations who entered the United States illegally are legally occupying your land.
California, the land which tolerates the government stealing your money in the name of taxation to fund illegal aliens taking your jobs and shipping narcotics into the streets where your children play.
California, the land where actors become governors so they can pontificate on substance-less dreams of utopia while $50bb budget deficits delay income tax returns, delay much needed reinvestments into infrastructure, schools, conservation, and technology.
It’s truly the land of Hollywood where the only things that are good live on the silver screen far removed from reality.
January 21, 2011 at 6:07 am | | Report comment
Clinton had a Surgeon General that thought that children as young as four and five years old should be taught how to masterbate and they should be able to do this in groups. This according to her would remove any shame about their bodies. Now The Obama has a Safe School Czar that supports the ‘Man Boy Love’ orgainization. Come on folks, this is what we wanted instead of that junk prayer in school. Get with it. Stop complaining. It is a life style or some other thing. Are you saying ‘good is evil and evil is good’?
January 21, 2011 at 5:47 am | | Report comment
“Flint indicated that the suspended teacher, whose name was not released by the school district…”
The teacher was a woman. If the teacher was a man, the name would have been published.
Females have sex more with little boys than Catholic Priests, but teachers get less main stream media coverage.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39783
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39783
January 21, 2011 at 5:48 am | | Report comment
Let me guess the teacher is suspended with pay and will be back in the class room “teaching” in less than a year after her paid vacation.
January 21, 2011 at 5:50 am | | Report comment
This does not surprise me; except that there was teacher present….Recently a kid (9 years old) was reportedly having oral sex with a little boy, probably less than her age; and she was telling another 8 year old to start kissing him. This took place in a daycare where these kids go to after school till they are picked up by their parents. The supervisor was a grandmother who was innocent of any wrongdoing. The 8 year old told her mom and the situation was exposed.
January 21, 2011 at 5:50 am | | Report comment
Awesome list. I see that most woman pedophiles walk free – the police do not charge them correctly and the judges mostly suspend their sentences.
January 21, 2011 at 5:52 am | | Report comment
Hey this is Oakland CA what do you expect?
January 21, 2011 at 5:52 am | | Report comment
Yeah…but with the epidemic of liberal female teachers in teacher’s unions engaging in sex with minor students it’s a safer bet it was another socialist female educator/indoctrinator.
January 21, 2011 at 5:55 am | | Report comment
In San Francisco, the real news is that they were NOT same sex!
January 21, 2011 at 5:56 am | | Report comment
Ha! So true… sadly.
January 21, 2011 at 6:09 am | | Report comment
The teacher is a woman so the school and or the media did not release her name.
January 21, 2011 at 5:56 am | | Report comment
TOO MANY BABOONS
January 21, 2011 at 5:58 am | | Report comment
Yeah, they are called parents or the lack thereof,
January 21, 2011 at 7:20 am | | Report comment
Good democrat #2:
You have to believe that the same teacher who can’t teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
January 21, 2011 at 5:58 am | | Report comment
Priceless!!
January 21, 2011 at 11:41 am | | Report comment
Ah, right next to San Francisco. There’s a surprise.
January 21, 2011 at 5:58 am | | Report comment
Good thing this didn’t happen in a lliberal run public school system…..
January 21, 2011 at 5:58 am | | Report comment
Sure because whether it did or didn’t really matters? The children don’t matter in any of this apparently. Save your agenda for your KKK meeting.
January 21, 2011 at 7:20 am | | Report comment
Wow, you’re probably not hitting on all cylinders. Obviously the children matter, hence my dissastifaction with liberal run public schools. What’s KKK meetings got to do with anything? Or are you just consumed with blind hatred for anyone that may disagree with you?
January 21, 2011 at 10:24 am
“KKK meetings”… right up there with the old favorite, “racist”. Chloe, you really are too stupid to be real, so I am HEREBY CLEARLY PROCLAIMING TO ANYONE ELSE WHO READS YOUR POSTS, THAT THEY SHOULD BE TAKEN AS SATYRE AND RESPONDED TO AS SUCH. It is clear that nobody with sufficient intelligence to consciously power up a computer could make the statements you have unless they were engaging is sarcasm.
January 21, 2011 at 11:46 am
Ho Hum….if it is California or Florida….it is public school at its normal presentation. Teachers are all perverts and sociopaths and the kid’s parents are all liberal degenerate worthless lumps of flesh rushing to the legal system for whatever does not please them…while the kids are fed an endless round of sexualization from the “adults” in their lives.
Public school itself is not the criminal, but the teachers that do not police THEIR OWN RANKS, the principals that have NO CLUE or are afraid of losing their paychecks, or the school boards filled with ignorant clods, or the parents who abandon their kids to anyone that will entertain them from 8 AM until 4 PM are the culprits…while the AMERICAN TAXPAYER pays for this crud.
January 21, 2011 at 5:59 am | | Report comment
Word Net Daily publishes a list yearly titled ‘The big list: Female teachers with students’. There are so many.
The female teacher mostly only loss their job. Cops do not charge them as pedophiles and the judges do not throw them in jail with the reduced charge of indecency.
January 21, 2011 at 5:59 am | | Report comment
Hispanic or Latino 51%
African American 40%
White <1%
January 21, 2011 at 6:00 am | | Report comment
Please, I knew a white girl who was 10 who had already had sex. Granted she was living in a trailer park, but that is beside the point she was still white and damn proud of what she did.
January 21, 2011 at 6:43 am | | Report comment
The school board, administrative school staff, and the teachers should be publicly humiliated and fired without benefits.
These kids are not being taught the three R’s they’re being taught perversion. After all didn’t Obama appoint a self avowed pedophile Kevin Jennings.
January 21, 2011 at 6:00 am | | Report comment
You can thank Bill Clinton for this.
January 21, 2011 at 6:00 am | | Report comment
All this happened while the parents were at the police station being finger printed so they could “volunteer” at the school.
SOOO many times we find its the TEACHERS that need to be watched, yet the school districts do all the can to prevent parents from being there.
January 21, 2011 at 6:01 am | | Report comment
What a shame. If this is true i guess the vilage raising our children is not quite working out. If my daughter was in the classroom I wouild be kicking somebody’s ass and if not me my wife. The sad thing about it some people out there probably think it’s cool. if you dont believe me jus take a look around. Also I wonder if it was two kids of the same sex across the bay in San Fran it would be applauded. Believe that.
January 21, 2011 at 6:02 am | | Report comment
“Of course, it is hard to understand how that could have occurred.”
Hmmm. Not really. We are talking about the Bay Area after all, where all the glorious goals of liberalism come closest to reality.
First you embrace environmentalists, who tell you that people are no better than animals. Then you idolize the feminists, who insist that child-devaluing abortion is a wonderful means of population control and who equate traditional morals (like, oh I dunno, not engaging in reckless sex with everyone in your neighborhood) with slavery. Then you hire/elect all the morons who think social engineering is the true beauty in public education — as opposed to teaching kids how to spell or think for themselves. Throw in a hearty dash of socialist communism (a very popular idea in SF), which openly states as one of its main goals the breakdown of religion and the traditional family so government has no barriers to elementary school brainwashing. And don’t forget all the useful idiots who think parents shouldn’t have a say in what’s taught in schools.
Than all you need is one dumb pervert schoolteacher to imagine he/she’s doing kids a favor by introducing them to concepts that won’t do them any good for years to come. Ta-da! Pat yourselves on the back, liberals.
January 21, 2011 at 6:04 am | | Report comment
What do you expect when you wed liberalism’s “if it feels good, do it” and the teachers’ union, which gives 95% of it political contributions to liberals: i.e., demcrats?
January 21, 2011 at 6:04 am | | Report comment
Why don’t female teachers receive the same treatment as Catholic Priests?
I know she’s female because men do not work in elementary school. I see it in my child’s school.
January 21, 2011 at 6:05 am | | Report comment
When you’re a 19 YO single mom and a senior in High School, of course you teach your daughter about oral sex so she won’t get preggers like you did. After all this Oakland!
January 21, 2011 at 6:06 am | | Report comment
In Oakland 2nd grade = 13 and 14 year olds
January 21, 2011 at 6:06 am | | Report comment
Great, and I suppose that is how you justify sleeping with underage teens; just add 7 years to their real age so that things appear the way you want them too. 2nd grade is 2nd grade. And a piece of advice that you can carry into the future is that no means no.
January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am | | Report comment
I believe he is just calling them stupid…
January 21, 2011 at 7:28 am
I’ll just repeat what has already been said:
This is in the Frisco/Oakland area of California.
Where’s the news story?
January 21, 2011 at 6:06 am | | Report comment
Right in front of you. These are still children and if you have already given up on them then this story is none of your concern and I don’t see why you even bother reading about incidents that occur in this city.
January 21, 2011 at 6:45 am | | Report comment
How much do you wanna bet that these were all blacks that were involved?
January 21, 2011 at 6:06 am | | Report comment
How much do you want to bet that the majority of Oakland is no longer Black, but Hispanic? Secondly the race of these children should not be your primary concern; what should be concerning is their age and their ability to conduct such acts under the supervision of an adult. Do you just look at race when you consider sexual attractiveness? Age doesn’t seem to matter to you does it?
January 21, 2011 at 6:49 am | | Report comment
Black kids seem to take to sexual behavior much earlier than other races. So the young age and the location immediately made me think the obvious.
January 21, 2011 at 2:40 pm
If you google Oakland and the school name, you can find publicschooleview.com and see a breakdown of students.
It is a VERY small school. Grade 2 has 75 students. 58 percent
hispanic, 39 percent black, 2 asian, 1 white. 387 students 22 teachers
65 percent get free lunch
You don’t even have to watch tv programming to see very suggestive
intimate acts, just watch the commercials.
Clinton brought oral sex into a high public profile and the banter lingered
that “oral sex isn’t sex”
Wow! Put it on the kiddy level and there are no arguments about this!
This is not the first time that this sort of thing has been reported.
This is not “normal’ but neither is taking a human being at an early age
and making him or her sit in a chair inside a room and be expected to
grow as an individual. This is just indoctrination and conditioning…the
majority of the population is institutionalized. Is this a good thing?
I agree with the quote someone here posted that this breeds a standard,
controllable human.
January 21, 2011 at 6:08 am | | Report comment
“Rot from the top”
January 21, 2011 at 7:59 am | | Report comment
I think some of you people must live in a fantasy land of some sort. There is more than enough content on TV and radio to teach a child what oral sex is. If these kids are left unsupervised, as many children are these days, they could easily learn about sex. The real issue here is this teacher. If this did in fact go on, this teacher should be in jail for a long time. And is it really any surprise that this happened in San Francisco? Not to me.
January 21, 2011 at 6:09 am | | Report comment
The classroom is overcrowded and the teacher is overworked….yeah, that sounds about right.
January 21, 2011 at 6:10 am | | Report comment
C’mon! It’s San Fran!……..so was it the fact that it was a boy and a girl and NOT two boys, or two girls?? This sort of thing is normally overllok ei California…..right??
January 21, 2011 at 6:10 am | | Report comment
In Hidalgo County, Texas it is not uncommon to find 10 to 15 year olds copulating in breezeways, alleys, and other places subject to public view. The incidence in some neighbourhoods and communities of children ages 7 – 9 engaging in sex-acts is in no wise newworthy. The younger ones are probably only imitating older associates….but who knows. The incidence of 12 year old preggie girls is not commentworthy here.
This is all the product of “non-judgemental” social standards, “share the wealth” economic structure, Catholic Charities, anchor-baby genealogy, and marxist public workers’ unions employment security measures.
America is toast.
January 21, 2011 at 6:10 am | | Report comment
Gotta love liberals. Perverse, outrageous, twisted, sick, deranged.
Keep voting for liberals and you will see more of this garbage.
January 21, 2011 at 6:10 am | | Report comment
Are you kidding me? This is just how low society has sunk. You can’t blame a political party or ideology; blame the parents.
January 21, 2011 at 6:57 am | | Report comment
They sure as Stuttgart are teaching ” sex ed ” etc at younger and younger ages. This is but the tip of the iceberg. And you can’t blame the ” culture ” these kids came from because DATS RAYCESS !
January 21, 2011 at 6:11 am | | Report comment
Stop worrying about blaming the right people and look at the environment where these children spend the majority of their time; that is at home or outside of school. Something isn’t right in the home lives of these children.
January 21, 2011 at 6:58 am | | Report comment
Chloe you ignorant sl ut. :where these children spend the majority of their time:. Isn’t that what he said you racist?
January 21, 2011 at 8:03 am
This is discusting. This teacher should have thier livense taken away and blacklisted so they can’t get another teaching job!!!
January 21, 2011 at 6:11 am | | Report comment
as long as there isn’t prayer in school. that’s all that matters.
January 21, 2011 at 6:12 am | | Report comment
Move along, nothing to see here. No prayer or invocations…. relax everybody.
January 21, 2011 at 6:50 am | | Report comment
Right on Joe! This certainly would NOT have happened if prayer was part of the school day. Sadly though, the issue is moot because there may never be prayer in the public school system again, not Christian or Jewish prayers anyway. On the one hand, I am encouraged that the vast majority of the comments have been rational. On the other hand, things like this tend to bring out the sex-obsessed creeps that somehow, in their twisted minds, see this as evidence that America needs “liberation” from our Puritanical values. Pornography has so poisoned the minds of some that they cannot bring themselves to condemn this horrific episode. If it turns out that the teacher is a pedophile, we need stricter background checks, NOW!
January 21, 2011 at 7:26 pm | | Report comment
So you want to get the Priests involved in a 3 some get lost.
January 22, 2011 at 5:59 am | | Report comment
The big list: Female teachers with students
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39783
January 21, 2011 at 6:12 am | | Report comment
This listing is all but incomprehensible. Another Stat that sticks in my mind and craw is that the Negro illegitimacy rate in 1950 was fairly well accurately determined to be 7% of live births…..while Caucasian (including Latins) was 5%. And they said we had a problem at that time…….They were right…..we failed to take all the social progressives to the recently de-activated Japanese Interment facilities and have them spayed and nuetered.
January 21, 2011 at 6:36 am | | Report comment
Ah, love at age 7. Isn’t it beautiful.
This is what LIBERALISM has caused. Wake up America!!
January 21, 2011 at 6:12 am | | Report comment
I don’t see what is so beautiful about this you freak.
January 21, 2011 at 6:59 am | | Report comment
Afro-Americans. Need I say more?
January 21, 2011 at 6:13 am | | Report comment
Yes, you should. Afro-Americans is not a complete sentence. Your superior ass should have been taught that at your non-Oakland school.
January 21, 2011 at 7:18 am | | Report comment
This teacher should be charged with child porn and declared as a sex offender. Plenty of jail time as well.
January 21, 2011 at 6:13 am | | Report comment
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Yet another confirmation that we are doing the right thing in homeschooling our kids.
January 21, 2011 at 6:14 am | | Report comment
I thought that was normal behavior for the little ghetto tykes.
January 21, 2011 at 6:16 am | | Report comment
You must not think much then. Hillbilly.
January 21, 2011 at 7:00 am | | Report comment
Now, now, don’t be judgmental. This is what liberals teach us. Perversion is what liberals love. Nothing is wrong. Must socially promote. Must work on children’s self-esteem. Who cares if they cannot read, write, and think critically. As long as I have my pension, salary, benefits, vacation days, and health care. The disgusting teachers and administrators have destroyed the public school system from one end of America to the other.
January 21, 2011 at 6:16 am | | Report comment
She needs a salary increase. She only works 8:30A to 3:30P effectively seven months a year earning $50k for part-time work.
January 21, 2011 at 6:16 am | | Report comment
Pardon my arrogance. I wrote the bill before I read it. My preaching was to the choir…..The majority of the comments on this screed are enlightened, left-brain thinking Patriots, not Obamatron Pinheads.
January 21, 2011 at 6:16 am | | Report comment
The teacher and the childrens’ parents should be put in stocks and publicly flogged. This is a sickening disgrace! A national travesty SHAME!!!
January 21, 2011 at 6:18 am | | Report comment
Remember people – This IS California! Pelosi, Boxer and Waters country. If were two boys together or two girls, school officals would be calling for tolerance and praising the teacher for not being judgemental. GLAD, the ACLU, would be jumping to this teachers’ defense. In SF & LA this is part of the cirriculum.
January 21, 2011 at 6:19 am | | Report comment
Many if not most second graders have internet access. One mistyped letter on a web address will bring up an unintended porn site! Sad but true, many of these children have seen it ALL!! Internet porn is to blame!
January 21, 2011 at 6:20 am | | Report comment
I don’t understand this at all. When I was in 2nd grade, we would have been mortified to be naked in front of each other. And we had no clue about sex whatsoever. Someone taught them to do this… and the teacher IS responsible for allowing this to go on in his or her class room.
January 21, 2011 at 6:20 am | | Report comment
“A fireable offense”???? There is just no way this Liberal logic gets a pass!!! Criminal neglect and crimes against children are the foulest acts…”Not allowed back on campus”??? What specie thinks this way??? The Liberal grip on American education is poisoning children! Can’t believe the “no big deal” atitude
January 21, 2011 at 6:21 am | | Report comment
“Oral sex is not sex”
William Jefferson Clinton
January 21, 2011 at 6:23 am | | Report comment
I still can’t believe a leader of our country said that… what a joke.
January 21, 2011 at 9:25 am | | Report comment
In 1971, my sister taught second grade in a school in Pahokee, Florida. Most of the students were children of migrant parents. Several times she and one of the first grade teachers caught students in the closet, performing sex acts. These children learned this at home. It is the home environment and not the fault of Bush 41 or 43, or Bill Clinton.
January 21, 2011 at 6:24 am | | Report comment
I always thought a Virgin was an uguly 3rd grader, looks like it is now a 2nd grader….How sad.
January 21, 2011 at 6:24 am | | Report comment
THIS IS FAKE
January 21, 2011 at 6:24 am | | Report comment
Well, so far, I have not heard the latest line from the liberals but it will probably be something like it is “Sarah Palin’s fault” or “George Bush’s fault”. I let you know as soon as I hear from Olberman or Matthews.
January 21, 2011 at 6:24 am | | Report comment
They must have watched MTV’s new show, Skins.
January 21, 2011 at 6:24 am | | Report comment
Not to worry, MTV is working on a new series and this was just a audience test.
January 21, 2011 at 6:25 am | | Report comment
Go ahead, bust my stereotypical bubble. Post a pic of the class and one of the teacher.
I’ve got a few bets going on the side here.
January 21, 2011 at 6:27 am | | Report comment
Yeah let’s bet on students’ lives. Go to a race track. You can bet and still be involved with something that has the word race in it.
January 21, 2011 at 7:10 am | | Report comment
This teacher has only been suspended? Why has the teacher not been arrested? I am certain that a case for child pornography and/or child sexual abuse can be made even if no pictures were taken, video made, or the children actually touched by the teacher.
This teacher should get 50 years!
January 21, 2011 at 6:28 am | | Report comment
San FranSICKO!!… This does not Suprise me coming from Nancy Piglosi ‘s San FranSICKO District!!. What else would you expect from California!!.
January 21, 2011 at 6:28 am | | Report comment
The teacher should be fired for lack of supervision! These urban kids are learning this stuff at home because they are already being abused by their extended family. A friend of my 20 years ago was a guidance councilor in an urban elementary school in NJ. He told me that six of his elementary school six grades were pregnant by their extended family. (Uncles). There was a case in the Detroit area about five years ago about a teacher reading the papers while two six grades had intercourse in his classroom! Just read the papers and listen to the news, This is happening throughout the country. But to my knowledge second grade is a first. Another first for African Americans. They also are to stupid to wear condoms or take birth control. That is why the death rate in New York City of African American unborn babies is at 60%. That stat is from a report in that came out yesterday. Obama take your head out of your ass and listen to Bill Cosby and help the African American in this country. Forget Africa, they don’t like to wear condoms either that’s why Aids/Hiv is spreading throughout African.
January 21, 2011 at 6:28 am | | Report comment
It’s just a cultural thing. Saying that sex between 2 Year Old urban children or their Uncle is wrong is RACIST RACIST RACIST!!
January 21, 2011 at 6:36 am | | Report comment
DUMB and White no doubt.
January 21, 2011 at 7:16 am
Cost to taxpayers to fire this teacher is estimated at $700,000
January 21, 2011 at 6:29 am | | Report comment
Hold on now, let me get this straight. A child makes a gun gesture with his hand in the classroom and is summarily suspended, and now we have a teacher, “in the classroom”, presiding over oral sex between 2nd graders, and officials can’t elaborate on details or the teacher because of an ongoing investigation? Something just ain’t right here.
January 21, 2011 at 6:30 am | | Report comment
Black kids being raised by the village in a school system run by liberal whackjobs who think kindergarten kids should be taught sex and masturbation. Why is everyone so shocked?
January 21, 2011 at 6:32 am | | Report comment
We are shocked because they are not taught sex and masturbation but how to recognize when someone is abusing them and how to seek help. The sex ed you are thinking about (and probably daydream about all day is taught in 5th/6th grade) to students whose parents approve and they discuss the changes that are already occurring in their bodies so that the children don’t have to depend on accurate information from their friends who may just want to demonstrate their answer.
January 21, 2011 at 7:07 am | | Report comment
Babies making babies is the norm in the black community, but this a new low.
January 21, 2011 at 6:32 am | | Report comment
What the hell do you know about the black community. So every black person lives like this. Wrong. This is an incident that occurred in a community in Oakland, CA. Not every black person in the United States lives there. Don’t speak for a whole people. You can’t justify your racism with ignorant comments like this.
January 21, 2011 at 7:09 am | | Report comment
Statistics. But don’t let truth get in the way of your race card.
January 21, 2011 at 10:35 am
Most of you are jumping to conclusions based upon the questionable accusations/”telling” of a 2nd grader (Whether or not others also REALLY saw it is highly difficult to determine, since children that age will 9 times out of 10 say that they also saw it). So before discriminating and blaming, get the facts down first…
In my opinion, this was a case of unnecessary (but typical) over-coverage of how out of control Oakland is, and how nobody seems to be able to read between the lines. Just look at the quote on quote “criminal” kidnapping of a boy by his moms baby daddy (who probably has a lot more that she’s not saying), who obviously did not resist being taken by Jose (Basically the boys paternal guardian). This is just putting paint where it ain’t.
January 21, 2011 at 6:33 am | | Report comment
Those crazy white kids!
January 21, 2011 at 6:33 am | | Report comment
There are some of those too. Those crazy kids is more like it.
January 21, 2011 at 6:55 am | | Report comment
MM,
“Sex is never a bad thing” You’re a delusional moron. It’s a bad thing for 2nd graders. People like you are the reason this nation is in decline.
January 21, 2011 at 6:34 am | | Report comment
It makes not difference where the kids learned this behavior, this is a subject for another time, the fact is the teacher was in the classroom and prevented these horrendous acts. They should be fired, that is if the union allows it to happen.
January 21, 2011 at 6:34 am | | Report comment
The giving and receiving of ‘Clintons’ and ‘Lewinskies’ in 2nd grade.
Brought to us live by a government school near you.
January 21, 2011 at 6:34 am | | Report comment
It’s easy to blame the parent, the principal, and/or the parents. But i think we all need to take a strong collective look at ourselves as a society. Take a look at what we’ve come to tolerate and even embrace in our music, movies, and TV! i have friends who have absolutely no qualms about letting their elementary school age kids what the most vile rated-R movies. And i live in one of the most morally conservative states in the country. If it’s bad where i live, can you only imagine what it’s like everywhere else! The chickens will be coming home to roost pretty soon and we’re all going to have to face the consequences together.
January 21, 2011 at 6:34 am | | Report comment
This is what happens when you allow unsupervised access to the internet. It takes just 10 seconds for kids to see exactly how to perform these acts by watching porn on the internet.
January 21, 2011 at 6:36 am | | Report comment
remeber this oral sex isnt sex.. clinton has stated this…… now it isnt that this happened that bugs me is the fact it happened once and none said anything at that time …. this mess makes me wonder what is the whole story….
January 21, 2011 at 6:38 am | | Report comment
Read the top of the Drudge Report today about the new MTV series Skins and you may get a clue where they get ideas.
Oh, and I think that there may be some of that going on at home. Maybe they should pay a visit to the parents.
Best
January 21, 2011 at 6:39 am | | Report comment
Typical liberal “tolerance” of deviant behavior is to blame.
January 21, 2011 at 6:39 am | | Report comment
What all of you crazies seem unable to ask is why in the heck was that teacher only suspended and not indicted, or at least fired. Teachers’ unions are going to destroy your children!
January 21, 2011 at 6:39 am | | Report comment
It’s pretty clear here that:
1) the teacher needs to be suspended/investigated and
2) the parents visited by social services to understand these kids home environments. This is NOT something taught in schools, but IN THE HOME.
3) kids that committed the act counseld, added to the watch list.
4) kids that witnessed it couseled
This is what a normal, level headed response to the situation would look like. Let’s see what happens next folks. I’m going to go get some more butter for the popcorn.
January 21, 2011 at 6:39 am | | Report comment
Exactly
January 21, 2011 at 7:01 am | | Report comment
“Flint indicated that the suspended teacher, whose name was not released by the school district, was present for both of the incidents” Protect the teacher and grade the parents… this is where we are in this sick society
January 21, 2011 at 6:41 am | | Report comment
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What surprises me most is that this even made the news in San Francisco!!
These kids are seven or eight years old, right. Think about the quality of TV entertainment they have been subjected to over their entire lifetimes.
The local and national news media have been fixated on sex, and in particular oral sex, ever since Bill and Monica, but continuing through the Catholic priest stories, and the Mayor of San Francisco himself.
If that is all that they are exposed to, don’t you think that they are going to be curious as to what it is?
I am not suggesting that the teacher did not have some direction in this, he or she probably did. At that age, the kids did not come up with it by themselves, and if they did, their family situations should be investigated. But to throw the teacher under the bus and demonize him in a city well known for its “anything goes” attitude, seems misguided.
January 21, 2011 at 6:41 am | | Report comment
GOOD!
I’m tired of it all. Everytime someone mentions a culture problem, they are accused of being some “Christian Fundamentalist”. I’m not even religious.
All I know is that the culture has tanked. Things have become too “accepted”. But..I’m sick of this fight so now, I CHEER THIS STUFF ON.
I hope more and more babies are born out of wedlock in America.
It crushes the welfare budgets, it crushes the country financially, it increases crime, it adds to America’s growing underclass and therefore, hurts everybody.
HERE’S TO BAD CULTURE. I HOPE IT GETS WORSE!
Fun to see you people suffer now.
January 21, 2011 at 6:41 am | | Report comment
This horror is but one result of Hollywood’s largely evil society destroyers. Add that to the loss of hope, the deranged disregard for the higher aspects of human life rampant in Democrat-controlled ghettos of America and you have these actions by already corrupted 2nd graders. Much worse is surely going on wherever the kids are not supervised. By the time Junior High comes along most kids are highly “knowledgeable” shall we say.
My former political party has successfully labored to destroy the Black family in Oakland, Detroit, Philly, Cleveland, Chicago and other American cities which constitute The Rise of the Corrupt Third World Cities of America. It’s imperative for Democrats, Progressives, and liberals to destroy the family, so to further gain control over the kids in order to further their control Democrat social control mechanisms. Blacks are their first target, but the Democrats are targeting every family in America for similar destruction.
As a teacher in California I say please consider yourselves lucky to get a glimpse of the underlying proclivities which pervade an internally dying society, a society purposefully undermined by my former political party’s Cloward-Piven operatives.
January 21, 2011 at 6:44 am | | Report comment
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. This is a lack of parental oversight coupled with a lack of teacher oversight. These children have extremely inattentive parents and no one in their lives who give a damn. Oakland is due for a change and I am in the process of working with several organizations to make this happen. It all begins in the home.
January 21, 2011 at 6:54 am | | Report comment
Chloe, you need to get a job. You have spent entirely too much time on this thread.
January 21, 2011 at 11:52 am
Bless you Miguel! With this post you should “win the prize!” Hang tough, brother!
January 21, 2011 at 8:23 am | | Report comment
Are we a civilized society?..unbelieveable..this teacher is a pervert she should be arrested
January 21, 2011 at 6:44 am | | Report comment
They shouldn’t have to fire this teacher..The teacher should be in prison. The school should lose all state and federal funding! It that is the kind of stuff they are teaching, these kids would be better off not going to school …period! Disgusting!
January 21, 2011 at 6:45 am | | Report comment
I have read much that I agree with about the public education system. My concern after reading the posts is what if the children involved have been molested by family or someone close by and this is what they think is normal. With that said the teacher is should have done something before it got to this point. They could have stopped them BEFORE it got out of hand. I think you need to get more background info. on all those involved because something is definitely not right in the classroom and at home.
January 21, 2011 at 6:45 am | | Report comment
Teachers are indoctrinated drones who want to brainwash our kids to be valueless left wing kooks…educating them is the last thing they want…we need to dismantle this network of drones
January 21, 2011 at 6:49 am | | Report comment
Public “education” as now effectively controlled by the federal governemnt, with their ” carrot” of federal money, is a prime example of “your government at work.” Please, folks, research .what has happened to our national education performance since the creation of the Department of Education in 1980. We are sinking like a stone.
January 21, 2011 at 8:47 am | | Report comment
Now let me see, 387 students and 22 teachers. That is a ratio of 387 students to 22 teachers. If we divide 387 students by 22 teachers we find that on average there appears to be a student to teacher ratio of 17-1/2 students to one teacher. I looked at my old class photograph from second grade. No one took off their clothes in class. No one performed oral sex in front of the class. We went to school and were students. The public schools are absolutely disgraceful. Over the past 50 years, the public school system has been destroyed. In my city only 30% of the students enrolled in the public school system graduate high school. Be proud liberals. You have controlled the cities for over 50 years and your policies have destroyed the public school system and the country.
January 21, 2011 at 6:50 am | | Report comment
This is sickening and horrifying. This is the result we get from telling children they are descended from apes and for chasing God out of every part of our culture, government, and lives. The school needs to be investigated and the parents do also. But Hollywood, atheists, and progressives have brought this horror upon us. And we have allowed it. God help us.
January 21, 2011 at 6:51 am | | Report comment
Don’t be so fast to crucify the teacher without knowing all the facts. My wife taught second grade and she caught two students half undressed involved in some heavy petting. She was a highly recognized teacher and I know first hand the dedication, time, and energy she put into her profession. But she had to deal with an overcrowded class in an inner city school that unfortunately had a number of problem kids that took up most of her time. It was while she was dealing with one of her problem kids beating on another student that two other kids went into a blind spot behind a cabinet and got their groove on. Another minute or two and no telling how far they would have gotten. My wife was extremely upset that it progressed as far as it did but until they get the problem makers out of the classroom so that the teachers can teach instead of spend all of their time with discipline problems, this could happen to any teacher.
January 21, 2011 at 6:51 am | | Report comment
Knowing media bias, if the teacher was a mail they would have said so loud and clear.
This article was written, very carefully, to leave the sex of the teacher out without making it blatantly apparent.
The teacher was probably a female.
January 21, 2011 at 6:55 am | | Report comment
And that is the most important issue of this whole story; the gender of the teacher right? To hell with the children who both participated in and/or witnessed these acts. What an agenda.
January 21, 2011 at 7:03 am | | Report comment
exactly why my kids DO NOT GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 6:55 am | | Report comment
O.K., Lay off CA! Not all of us are envelope-pushing koo-koos. I work at a small school in N. CA. This would never, never happen at my school. Futhermore, I am certain that this disgusting incident would not have occured if the “teacher” had not orchestrated it. I’d like to throw him off a cliff. Shame on this person! And shame on those who try to make this political. The sweet little minds of these children have been exposed to sometihing they won’t forget. The “teacher”‘s salary should go towards therapy for them all. This is SO SAD!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 6:57 am | | Report comment
Typical Ghetto Behavior.
January 21, 2011 at 7:00 am | | Report comment
Typical baiting.
January 21, 2011 at 7:03 am | | Report comment
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Wow, they are starting young.
I was eight before I tried anything like this.
(but I didn’t do it in a public performance.)
January 21, 2011 at 7:01 am | | Report comment
If that ever happen to one of my Grandkids
the teach would never make it to court.
I would drag that teacher out in the woods
soak the teacher down with GAS and light a mafch
and fry that teacher.
January 21, 2011 at 7:02 am | | Report comment
Thank You Liberalism!! This is what you’ve been wanting.
January 21, 2011 at 7:03 am | | Report comment
IT’S OAKLAND!! They sees der mama do it wiff a new boyfren ever night while they sits da chile in fron of da telebision.
January 21, 2011 at 7:04 am | | Report comment
Learn to speak standard English please. You consider other who do not fools and yet you cannot speak it yourself.
January 21, 2011 at 7:15 am | | Report comment
Chloe: He’s speaking Oakandish. I lived there in the ’60′s. It’s only gotten worse. Lord have mercy on the children who have to grow up there.
January 21, 2011 at 7:23 am
I’m 44, when I was in the 2nd grade two kids (same age) were caught behind the school, during class, having sex. Don’t say it isn’t possible. I also knew a family that seenm no problem letting their children watch porno’s. They had a son, and daughter. Don’t say it can’t happen, it can and it does. I blame parents myself. They send their kids off to school and expect teachers to do their jobs. Shame on them!
January 21, 2011 at 7:04 am | | Report comment
Oakland spelled backwards is NEGRO GHETTO.
Why is this even a news article?
January 21, 2011 at 7:06 am | | Report comment
Well, you must have been educated at a very good white school to be able to spell like that. Oakland is not even predominately Black. Why don’t you go back to school and develop some critical thinking skills? POS
January 21, 2011 at 7:12 am | | Report comment
Your an idiot. Just the headline tells you their black.
January 22, 2011 at 6:11 am
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Thank You Liberalism!! This is what you’ve been wanting.
January 21, 2011 at 7:07 am | | Report comment
Another useless teacher who will receive paid leave, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our right:
They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
Impeach Obama and sweep out the Congress, except Ron Paul.
(Last link of Banned Book):
http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526
January 21, 2011 at 7:08 am | | Report comment
Everyone take it easy. The chilldren are just expressing themselves. All this negativity could injure their self esteem, not to mention having an adverse impact on their outcome-based education.
January 21, 2011 at 7:10 am | | Report comment
Second graders in Oakland probably have an average age of 15… shocking!
Sounds like TNB.
January 21, 2011 at 7:10 am | | Report comment
Second graders in Oakland are children, period. Grow up.
January 21, 2011 at 7:13 am | | Report comment
I can tell you wish it was you in the front of the class. Moron.
January 22, 2011 at 6:13 am
Yankee dogs will be found at our feet in less than a decade. The U.S.A. are morally and financially bankrupt.
January 21, 2011 at 7:10 am | | Report comment
Feeder school for the porn industry.
January 21, 2011 at 7:13 am | | Report comment
Unbelievable! The nanny state will just ignore this and continue monitoring McDonald’s Happy Meal toys and plastic bags. That should take care of it. Right, Californication?
January 21, 2011 at 7:14 am | | Report comment
Relax. They did NOT have sex. with each other. Those kids.
January 21, 2011 at 7:17 am | | Report comment
depends on what meaning of “is” is…
January 21, 2011 at 7:20 am | | Report comment
It’s a trial balloon. They want to gauge the backlash in order to decide if it is still strong enough to rebuke explicit kindergarten based sex education. When few enough people are outraged, it becomes acceptable.
January 21, 2011 at 7:18 am | | Report comment
The teacher, a woman I suspect, has Sex Ed lab for seven year old children. The teacher will only lose her job and be charged for indecency. The judge will look the other way.
January 21, 2011 at 7:18 am | | Report comment
This is sickening, but coming from SF/Oakland, I’m not that surprised. I’m willing to bet the teacher was known to be a pervert… err…. I mean, someone who practiced one of the alternative lifestyles embraced by the people there. I’m curious to see what will happen to this sicko. He should be removed from society forever, but I doubt he will. That place looks more and more like Sodom and Gomorrah.
January 21, 2011 at 7:20 am | | Report comment
oakland. say no more.
January 21, 2011 at 7:21 am | | Report comment
I find it amazing that something like this happens and the debate degenerates into who authored “No Child Left Behind.” If the teacher was present when the sex act took place and did nothing to stop it, why wasn’t the teacher arrested?
January 21, 2011 at 7:21 am | | Report comment
Little will happen. The Teacher’s Union and Woman’s Groups are outraged when police do not arrest white guys with child porn pictures on laptops. Nothing happening here. Keep walking. LOL
January 21, 2011 at 7:22 am | | Report comment
It’s an ethnic thing, in Oakland.
January 21, 2011 at 7:23 am | | Report comment
Yes, black culture.
January 22, 2011 at 6:14 am | | Report comment
Your unionized 100% Democrat-voting public school teachers in action!
January 21, 2011 at 7:23 am | | Report comment
I wonder whether pornography played an integral part on the teacher’s choice to allow this to happen?
January 21, 2011 at 7:26 am | | Report comment
Women are not charged as pedophiles or for child pornography. The school and the media will not even release the woman’s name. Suckers
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39783
January 21, 2011 at 7:27 am | | Report comment
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One of the many self degrading benefits of liberalism. Liberals believe that young children should be taugh sex acts. So is this really any surprise? Also, remember that this teacher is unionized, so she’ll be suspended two or three years getting paid waiting for her trial or her union due process.
January 21, 2011 at 7:30 am | | Report comment
I am not surprised that American students are ranked at the bottom of International test scores. The Chines are going to eat our lunch.
January 21, 2011 at 7:32 am | | Report comment
In the second grade, I still thought it was only to pee with. Of course, this is the affect of Limbaugh, Hannity, Palin and others who use crosshair, aim, bulletproff and other metaphors. In fact, I bet these kids shopped at Target.
January 21, 2011 at 7:33 am | | Report comment
Is that what the Libs call it “make love, not war”???
January 21, 2011 at 8:17 am | | Report comment
I don’t know this teacher, but I would bet she is a low life liberal
January 21, 2011 at 7:33 am | | Report comment
Yeah, but what they’re not tellling you is that the second graders are 15 and 16 years old.
January 21, 2011 at 7:34 am | | Report comment
Secular America. This is just the beginning. Moral equivalency, no universal standards, no punishment, no SHAME. Take away the concept of “shame” and shunning the shameful and soon…anything goes.
January 21, 2011 at 7:35 am | | Report comment
What do you expect from schools and teachers who are socialists? It’s an “anything goes” society. Remove morality and discipline and this is the end result. Hell, this has been in the making for some 35 years now. I am so glad my kids will never touch a foot in public schools.
January 21, 2011 at 7:35 am | | Report comment
What was this union POS sleeping it off or was she reading a book while this was going on.
January 21, 2011 at 7:36 am | | Report comment
Why is this a surprise? The liberals have ruined CA and every major inner-city school system/program. They get what they deserve, and reap what they sew!
January 21, 2011 at 7:37 am | | Report comment
The Teacher Union will protect her and our justice system treat women as victims, not as perpetrator. Like some wrote earlier – the paper would not even publish her name.
If she’s good looking, she’ll get a book deal and a visit on The View and Oprah. She’ll share how her husband/boyfriend/father beat/raped/abused her.
January 21, 2011 at 7:37 am | | Report comment
Does our country have any morals?
January 21, 2011 at 7:41 am | | Report comment
This teacher is a victim of an oppressive male American culture. This is her body and time, so she can do what she wants with it.
January 21, 2011 at 7:43 am | | Report comment
The fault lies in the Teachers Union. This person is on paid leave, not fired. That should be your first indication as to what is wrong with the educational system today.
January 21, 2011 at 7:45 am | | Report comment
The teacher is discriminating and not showing gay sex equally with heterosexual sex.
January 21, 2011 at 7:46 am | | Report comment
This is totally unacceptable and disgusting behavior.
Anyone know w here I can get pictures of the alleged crime ? Hi-res full color video would be best.
Snork, snork , , , , ,
January 21, 2011 at 7:46 am | | Report comment
arrest the teacher – why is this teacher NOT in jail RIGHT NOW!
Wake up ! Repent! because this culture has led to this type of thing going on..
January 21, 2011 at 7:47 am | | Report comment
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is this unusual for the Bay Area?
January 21, 2011 at 7:49 am | | Report comment
If the teacher was present and these children were naked and performing sex acts,then I would suspect the teacher was involved too. No child feels free to do that unless they either feel invisible to a teacher that ignored them or felt this behavoir would be acceptable. Regardless of the teacher’s aspect, the children need to be investigated for possible sexual abuse. Children do not exhibit this type of sexual behavoir at that age unless they are already victims of sexual abuse. And as they acted out their sexual behavoir in that classroom, they created new sexual abuse victims, the other students. Those other students are now affected by viewing or participating in it. So they need to address that the whole class is basically victims of this sexual abuse. This is terrible.
January 21, 2011 at 7:49 am | | Report comment
Very true..but .this is the new no child left behind policy…and we can’t make anyone feel bad, can we?
January 21, 2011 at 8:02 am | | Report comment
OMG, where did these kids learn this? Where are the parents? Supervision starts at home. Our society had better start re-evaluating our morals and values. Stop the PC, feel good BS. Time to start the spanking. We are all a product of our environment. Let’s stop the talking and start doing.
January 21, 2011 at 7:50 am | | Report comment
Under Obama and Holder, personal freedom is guaranteed, anyone can do anything he/she likes regardless to age, gender, race. This kind of freedom could expand to include having sex with minor, voter intimidation, and etc. As long as no one would criticize the Obama administration (ban the conservative/independent radio broadcast) and not get involve in politics that goes against Obama’s agenda such as displaying USA flag & singing national anthem in the public.
January 21, 2011 at 7:51 am | | Report comment
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And you wonder why our enemies consider us the “devil” and we need to be destroyed. All our enemies need to do is watch about 2 hours worth of “family” programming and it will reinforce their “hatred” toward the “devil”. Our society and culture is going down the tubes. And this is just another example of where things are going.
January 21, 2011 at 7:51 am | | Report comment
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Suspended? Why was this teacher immediately fired, and arrested? Oh I forgot, TEACHERS UNIONS
January 21, 2011 at 7:56 am | | Report comment
You’re all trying to blame blame blame, when the only facts you’ve been fed, is what a 2′nd grader said—and if any of you actually understand or work with kids, your would know that elementary school politics and gossip is very messy.
GET THE FACTS RIGHT 1st Before discriminating and blaming–
“fix the economy!!!”……blame China (when a low Yuan in a real Free Market Economy actually benefits the US more than it benefits China, if Chinese currency were brought to true value, Americans would suddenly switch to Pro Government intervention on issues which are suppose to be determined by the market).
“fix the Crime!”…..Hire more police (more police would only continue/or/repeat the cycle of gentrification and furthering this false belief that the Criminal Justice system in America works or even can work. Everyone’s talking about how bad the economy is…and if you know anything about histories and how deep they have dug this hole, you would recognize that nightmares are dreams that are hard to forget. Nations have their dreams and the memories of such dreams persist through generations and centuries. Some of these are noble dreams, while others wicked and ignoble. Dreams of conquest and of being bigger and stronger than all the others are always bad dreams, and such nations have more to worry about than others who have more peaceful dreams (LYT). Dreams of a better world, dreams of peace and of nations living at peace with one another, of less cruelty, injustice, and poverty and suffering. Bad dreams tend to destroy the good – people fight for their dreams as much as they fight for their worldly possessions (LYT). And so dreams descend from the world of idle visions and enter the world of reality, becoming a major force in our lives (LYT). So as Americans the tendency is to look forward and not back, because unless you’re white (whose self- proclaimed superiority cannot simply be professed as extraneous), the tendency is to trust the ideal. “There is such a human desire to be different from what we are, to get out of the present ruts, that anything which offers a change always has a tremendous appeal to average humanity. A war is always attractive because it offers a city clerk the chance of donning a uniform and wearing puttees and a chance for travel gratis, while an armistice or peace is always desirable after three or four years in the trenches, because it offers the soldier a chance to come back home and wear civilian dress and a scarlet necktie once more.” Like Cyndi Lauper said, “time after time”, we have done this, and one should recognize that idealism is merely a state of mind that believes in another world order, no matter what kind of an order, so long as it is different from the present one.
The best charioteers do not rush ahead; the best fighters do not make displays of wrath.
The greatest conqueror wins without joining issue;
The best user of men acts as though he were their inferior.
This is called the power that comes of not contending, is called the capacity to use men,
The secret of being mated to heaven, to what was of old.
(THUS) The law of action and reaction brings about violence rebounding to violence:
He who by 道(Dao) purposes to help a ruler of men
Will oppose all conquest by force of arms;
For such things are wont to rebound.
Where armies are, thorns and brambles grow.
The raising of a great host
Is followed by a year of dearth (Famine / Hardship).
Therefore a good general effects his purpose and then stops;
But what for the raising of numerous?
“I was taught in the land where the red man bled…
and all the other things my educated friend said,” -guilty simpson
January 21, 2011 at 7:59 am | | Report comment
What the HELL does this have to do with this atrocity??? You need serious HELP, man…
January 21, 2011 at 8:59 am | | Report comment
Mou Albert…please take your meds first, THEN reply.
January 21, 2011 at 5:42 pm | | Report comment
They were getting it on like Donkey Kong!!!
January 21, 2011 at 8:00 am | | Report comment
What kind of animals live in Oakland/California?!?!?!? Seriously? I have kids around that age and that type of thing would have never happened in my kids school. Thank God for the heartland of America. When is that big earthquake thats overdue going to happen so California and all their loons finally fall into the sea? It seems that’s our only hope for that Godforsaken state.
January 21, 2011 at 8:03 am | | Report comment
It’s only a problem b/c it’s a boy and a girl. If it were GLBT, then it would be health class.
January 21, 2011 at 8:04 am | | Report comment
California + Public Schools + Oakland: Not a great combination for model or moral behavior.
January 21, 2011 at 8:04 am | | Report comment
Hey California, why are you so surprised at this? You’ve taken morality and thrown it to the dogs, everything is “OK” there – abortion, gay marriage, Hollywood “values” …. Your judges rule against what the voters want, and you’re gradually losing your freedoms – yet you wonder “why”. It’s apparent to everyone but you.
January 21, 2011 at 8:04 am | | Report comment
Wasn’t Jerry Brown the mayor of Oakland? Was this going on under his watch? WATCH OUT CA!!!!!!!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 8:04 am | | Report comment
Let’s not forget this teacher will be right back in the classroom as soon as the Teacher’s Union fights to save her job! Go Unions!!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 8:05 am | | Report comment
Who does that!!! I mean really im in a class with a blonde teacher who you can just walk out the classroom and she wouldnt know until you told her you left.
January 21, 2011 at 8:07 am | | Report comment
Liberal Doctrine:
If even ONE child will always have sex anyway, you should therefore do NOTHING to discourage EVERY child from engaging in sex.
January 21, 2011 at 8:08 am | | Report comment
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Come on, it’s flaming liberal San Fransisco. Isn’t this normal there? I’m sure Newsome would fight for their right to be able to do this. (yes folks, it’s sarcasm)
January 21, 2011 at 8:11 am | | Report comment
THANK YOU BILL CLINTON
January 21, 2011 at 8:12 am | | Report comment
These are the kind of sex perverts that this atheist educational system is hiring as teachers! I assure you, this is the tip of the iceberg.
January 21, 2011 at 8:15 am | | Report comment
Brave new world anyone?
January 21, 2011 at 8:16 am | | Report comment
What is this world coming to, porn, drugs, sexting, teen sex on sundays, Honkytonk badonkadonk, vibrators being advertised on television in the middle of the day! I mean really you guys say were would they learn this?! TV!!! Parents dont censor what there children watch. and i can bet that a good majority of those kids parents are on drugs! and i read that they can see all that stuff on the streets. This world is going to rip itself apart!!
January 21, 2011 at 8:17 am | | Report comment
This ought to be a surprise but when we had former Clinton appointee Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders in charge she advocated teaching masturbation and other sexual practices to kindergartners. Those promoting this ideology destroying a child’s innocence should be arrested for being pedophiles.
January 21, 2011 at 8:18 am | | Report comment
Unions will come the the teacher’s assistance.
January 21, 2011 at 8:18 am | | Report comment
Oakland, Ca huh? That’s why I’m not shocked. What does anyone expect from a bunch of perverts.
January 21, 2011 at 8:19 am | | Report comment
The teacher is suspended indefinetley. Which means the idiot will not be fired but instead will collect a full pay check until retirement when it will be able to collect it’s pension and live happily liberally ever after. Gotta love the evil unions and how much they truly care about the quality of education of our children. This country needs a good union busting revolution.
January 21, 2011 at 8:20 am | | Report comment
PEDOPHILIA, people.
Nothing to do with any President.
January 21, 2011 at 8:21 am | | Report comment
I recall there was a high school where they tested students and found half the girls were pregnant! Look, you morons, can’t you understand that we have a fatal venereal disease which has been let loose on the population, and is spreading like wildfire? Give all students in all the schools HIV tests. Prove me wrong. I can guarantee that the results of this would be so shocking that you would faint.
January 21, 2011 at 8:21 am | | Report comment
Dr. Bombay,
“It is better to keep your mouth shut and to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” Ever heard of Christ, you know the Big Kahuna of the NEW Testament, the one who is the ultimate fulfillment of the Hebrew Law so that we don’t go around killing adulterers and sexual perverts any more?
January 21, 2011 at 8:23 am | | Report comment
Is anyone sure this wasn’t part of the lesson plan? These kids could very well be supervised. Nothing surprises me any more. We all know that when a story is about someone getting hurt doing something stupid it is about a Southerner. When the story is about deviant or immoral behavior we all know it comes from California.
January 21, 2011 at 8:24 am | | Report comment
California…the state for proud marxists and losers. To HELL with political correctness
January 21, 2011 at 8:24 am | | Report comment
Sex acts in public classrooms? Yet another reason my children are homeschooled. So, yes there are some disadvantages to homeschooling including sexually ignorant 2nd graders…
January 21, 2011 at 8:25 am | | Report comment
Time to take sex ed. out of the schools control, and place it back in the parents hands where it belonged all along. Just as with three R’s education, the schools have totally failed.
I know that with greater funding(ie higher pay for teachers) things will turn out better.
The only thing that Government does well is blow things up through war, and endless war at that. I know, Hussein is going to “change” that……soon…….?
We still at war!
Perhaps the new Health Care bill will have provisions in it that resolve the issue of “too young sex”……
We will know when we see what is in it!
Cannot wait to see what is in it! For the majority of Americans that are literate, there will be some “jaw dropping” !
So, that leaves a high percentage out. Those mainly vote “liberal” for the handouts, and are kept in their place by the Democrat party that needs their ignorance in numbers to sustain their party and agenda. So, onward and downward with the Government run schools that along with our failed economics will send our nation down to third world status.
There are more situations like this out there, that remain to be seen.
Don’t doubt it.
January 21, 2011 at 8:26 am | | Report comment
We can thank the counterculturists of the 1960′s for our current state of hell on Earth. This is the kind of world they have been dreaming of for years, as in “Dreams From My Father.”
January 21, 2011 at 8:28 am | | Report comment
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Sounds like a bunch of spooks doing the only thing they know how to do.
January 21, 2011 at 8:29 am | | Report comment
I would like to introduce you to Obama’s Safe School Czar, Kevin Jennings. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32472
January 21, 2011 at 8:29 am | | Report comment
Coming from Sodom California and the liberal capitol of America, and you’re shocked? Anything degenerate is acceptable to liberals.
January 21, 2011 at 8:32 am | | Report comment
The fact that 7 year olds had the idea to give or recieve oral sex is most disturbing. The problem isn’t necessarily with the school on this, but is a overall failure of the parents and a tragic home life.But what is problem with the school is the way the Oakland Unified School District pretends to be in shock. What do they expect? Teachers make poor surrogate parents because their interest in the students is superficial at best. Couple that with the introduction of sexual topics in the classroom on a regular basis, and the results are going to be disastrous. This is one more reason why Oakland Unified schools (and public schools in general) are terrible places for our kids to raised.
January 21, 2011 at 8:33 am | | Report comment
I guarantee you these kids are black…and so is the supposed teacher. They’re doing what their parents teach them is normal. And this is the norm for black “parents” in Oakland and the surrounding area. Animals…full stop.
January 21, 2011 at 8:34 am | | Report comment
People go to court and spend millions to keep the Ten Commandments and any mention of a Creator out of the schools, courts, etc.
AND then they are surprised by this? If all morality is relative and there is no real right and worng,
JUST what are these people complaining about?
For a generation they have been calling the “Tune”.
NOW you object to paying the “Fiddler”.
What did they expect would happen? And this is just the beginning. It will get worse as each day goes by.
January 21, 2011 at 8:34 am | | Report comment
What the article did not tell us is that the teacher is a liberal DEMOCRAT. If the teacher was a conservative republican it would have been plastered throughout the article. Liberals have put human life in the same catagory as dog food. We better wake up.
January 21, 2011 at 8:38 am | | Report comment
I think it’s time to investigate the homes of these children…….
January 21, 2011 at 8:38 am | | Report comment
Ah, the blessings of public education. We need to dump public education for the failure that it is. Public education is a monopoly – unfair competition.
January 21, 2011 at 8:40 am | | Report comment
This kind of horses**t MUST stop!
I have a 2nd grader and I would be PI***D if this happened in front of his eyes. To rob his innocence at such a young age and never get it back.
What the hell is wrong with the parents in this country??????????
January 21, 2011 at 8:40 am | | Report comment
This teacher was suspended? WHY NOT ARRESTED? Shows you where today’s society is.
Read: http://www.unmitigated-truth.com/2011/01/is-it-really-end-of-america.html
Shameful!
January 21, 2011 at 8:41 am | | Report comment
Why wasn’t the teacher FIRED?? Oh, right, because the teachers unions protect these types of teachers. Awesome.
January 21, 2011 at 8:45 am | | Report comment
This teacher needs to be put in prison , general population , with a sign thar says sex offender . I have a granddaughter and a grandson in the second grade this year and 8 yrs old is way the HELL to young. Those children are gonna need counseling and they have lost their innocence. This is what happens when people turn their back on GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 8:47 am | | Report comment
Couldn’t agree more, Sharon! Welcome to the new Sodom and Gomorrah!
January 21, 2011 at 8:55 am | | Report comment
This is a good thing in “Liberal Land.”
January 21, 2011 at 8:48 am | | Report comment
Simply madness!
January 21, 2011 at 8:53 am | | Report comment
Hey, it’s Oakland, California, the home of former Mayor (now retread Governor) Jerry Brown. So if it will work in Oakland, then it’ll be good enough for the entire State of Calie-fornia! And how intolerant of that teacher-hetorosexual sex being allowed in the classroom. Shouldn’t there have been other alternative forms allowed at the same time? (And don’t get your BVD’s in a twist; this is major league sarcasm here).
January 21, 2011 at 8:53 am | | Report comment
i’m sure congresswoman sheila jackson lee will defend the kids’ 14th amendment rights to equal treatment under the law.
after all, why should big kids have all the fun? that’s not equality!
January 21, 2011 at 8:54 am | | Report comment
no one here really knows what occurred in that classroom. but one thing is certain .the kids involved brought this from home. one or both of them has been allowed to watch people having sex or they have actually been molested.
this isn’t about politics. It is about what is appropriate behavior for small children and what that teacher’s roll in it was.
It seems impossible that any teacher would think this was ok.
January 21, 2011 at 9:20 am | | Report comment
The Land of Fruits and Nuts.
January 21, 2011 at 8:57 am | | Report comment
Was the teacher ROMAN POLANSKI?
Model of TYPICAL CALIFORNIA BEHAVIOR!!!
January 21, 2011 at 8:58 am | | Report comment
God and standards do have everything to do with society and schools.
In the late forties the biggest problem in our schools was chewing gum!!!!
There is no accountability anywhere in our society not to each other, God or authority. The courts are corrupt, politicians and judges also.
Wall street, Science with their evolutionary propaganda,every part of society is corrupt.
History tells us a lot about what happens when great nations fall.So the question is How do you have joy as we slide down? Become a Christ Follower. Oh I’m sorry that is too lame to restrictive to narrow minded.
Isn’t that how we learn right FROM wrong? HMMM. All it takes is one person to change society but you have to have the right foundation to change it for good.
That comes from transforming your mind oops sorry that interferes with my rights. Read proverbs 10 there is a wrong and a right way to think we think for ourselves or for others what type of thinking went on here?
January 21, 2011 at 8:59 am | | Report comment
Promotion of immorality in an era of sexually transmitted pandemic is nothing less than murder.
January 21, 2011 at 8:59 am | | Report comment
MTV is ruining the youth of america. I blame them. I remember back in the day when the most scandalous thing on there was the Beach Boys California Girls video. Oh those were the days.
January 21, 2011 at 8:59 am | | Report comment
No seven year old is going to do this spontaneously. They’re being molested. It’s obvious that the teacher is deeply involved, no sane rational adult would allow anything inappropriate in the classroom. To me the question only is, what other adults are involved? And condoning this means that you need to see a therapist quickly. This isn’t about being ‘liberal’ it’s about either being a troll or having pedophiliac tendencies yourself.
January 21, 2011 at 9:03 am | | Report comment
I am 12 years old and what is this?
January 21, 2011 at 9:03 am | | Report comment
You aren’t 12 – and if you are – where are your parents? I am sure they wouldn’t want you reading this…
January 21, 2011 at 9:23 am | | Report comment
“If you scandalize one of these little ones it is better that a mill stone be tied around your neck and cast into the sea!”
January 21, 2011 at 9:04 am | | Report comment
I don’t see what the big deal is…..little tattle tales
January 21, 2011 at 9:07 am | | Report comment
Surely you jest…
January 21, 2011 at 9:22 am | | Report comment
Tss Tsss Yeah…it’s like he thinks something like this is funny like raping a clown or somethin
January 21, 2011 at 11:22 am
you dont see what the big deal is? you are probably a creep. I hope if you get arrested you meet Ramone in jail
January 21, 2011 at 9:38 am | | Report comment
Kids don’t do this on their own they must have seen this before and copied the behavior thinking that it was okay.. something that the “grown ups” do. I agree with Chukkal the homes need to be investigated.
January 21, 2011 at 9:09 am | | Report comment
This is all about the teacher. Twice in one week? Who is encouraging who? As for all of the comments about kids being kids – what planet are you from? School should be a safe haven – not the mental ward. A letter of apology can never be enough to undo the harm that’s been done. This teacher needs to go directly to jail for child endangerment and pedophilia – maybe then others will sit up and take note. This is totally unacceptable.
January 21, 2011 at 9:21 am | | Report comment
Oral sex is not sex. Ask Bill Clinton. This must be new Sex Ed re-programing lab time. LOL
Teacher Unions protect their own and law enforcement will look the other way.
The children grow up to apply for welfare or apply themselves in sex industry like MTV or ABC/NBC/CBS.
Move along nothing. Nothing Here to see. Move along.
January 21, 2011 at 9:22 am | | Report comment
Someone should write a book and call it “Child Abuse in the Classroom”…oh, it was already written.
January 21, 2011 at 9:22 am | | Report comment
Time to make a home visit.
January 21, 2011 at 9:23 am | | Report comment
Thank you God for giving me the guidance, insight, and intellect to leave the liberal socialist cesspool called California in 2002 so I can watch it’s disintegration from 3,000 miles away. Oh Lord, please watch over and protect the helpless children who are at the mercy of these godless immoral liberals in California. Amen.
January 21, 2011 at 9:25 am | | Report comment
A shooting occurs and the outcry is to ban guns. When something like this occurs why not clamor for the closing of all public schools? Provide for your child’s education for they will not get one in the public school. That’s right, they do not get an education at school, but they do get schooled in conformity, indoctrination and depravity like this.
January 21, 2011 at 9:25 am | | Report comment
I like depravity. Most people do. God created depravity for us to indulge in. You silly religious people and your lack of understanding of the world your God made for you makes me wanna vomit my cheerios.
January 21, 2011 at 11:21 am | | Report comment
HA! A donkey with the voice of Eddie Murphy will be born before you can even get above 15% with taking religion off the planet. I laugh at you. That’s what Hitler tried to do, wasn’t it? Taking religion off the planet? Sure seems like it. And you know what? He failed. There still are countries who will kill anyone who’s a Christian, but that doesn’t stop the missionaries going to preach the Gospel and save people’s lives, now does it?
“The word of the Lord remains forever.” -1 Peter 1:25
January 22, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Hippy culture in elementary school.
In 30-40 years, when the Chinese rule the world, child sex in school will finally be gay sex.
January 21, 2011 at 9:25 am | | Report comment
i didn’t even know there was a difference when i was that young. my how the world has changed.
January 21, 2011 at 9:26 am | | Report comment
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According to Bill Clinton, tha’s not sex.
January 21, 2011 at 9:26 am | | Report comment
typical democrat in action. techer should be jailed. parents should should be investigated, and san fran in general shoudl take all of its STD”S and go away. to much liberal garbage there. destroying a good country.
January 21, 2011 at 9:27 am | | Report comment
No jury in my state would convict the parents of the children involved if that “teacher” suddenly wound up in a full body cast with every bone in his body broken from blunt force trama. Then these god forsaken liberals might get the message to stay away from our kids.
January 21, 2011 at 9:35 am | | Report comment
This is what happens when Obummer appoints people like this
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=119322
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32472
and carries cirruculum like “Cindy has two dada”
the left is contiually pushing their agenda
and this is what you get….
January 21, 2011 at 9:27 am | | Report comment
I am so thankful that there is no prayer in school, or worse having our children exposed to the 10 Commandments.
January 21, 2011 at 9:30 am | | Report comment
SAME HERE! I would never want my kid thinking some magical Jesus is gonna float down on a cloud of feathers and save him from all his naughty thoughts. I like my kid to be normal, unlike religious raised nutters who always end up with a head full of problems due to the OBVIOUS inconsistencies of religious brainwashing.
January 21, 2011 at 10:25 am | | Report comment
I had sex in the second grade and it didn’t do any harm to me. Except for a few experiences in high school relating to necrophilia, I have been pretty normal. The think that I can’t figure out is the second graders were naked in a class full of kids and the teacher did not notice. Wow. I’m envious.
January 21, 2011 at 9:32 am | | Report comment
Your hand doesn’t count dipstick.
January 21, 2011 at 1:56 pm | | Report comment
This makes me so angry. Internet, what these little kids see at home and this awful teacher are to blame.
January 21, 2011 at 9:33 am | | Report comment
The teacher will not be jailed as a sex offender. She be found guilty off a lesser charge. Claim her father abused her as a child. The judge will suspend the sentence. She’ll sign a book deal and appear on Oprah. Someone will set up a fund for her. She get her PhD.
January 21, 2011 at 9:35 am | | Report comment
Good, the teacher did nothing wrong. Neither did the kids. Nobody here should be punished except to tell the teacher that he/she needs to pay more attention to what his rug rubbers are doing.
January 21, 2011 at 10:23 am | | Report comment
The real tragedy in all of this is that I’m afraid it’s too late to turn back from where we’re all headed to. Any sort of moral backlash will just result in an even bigger backlash in the other direction toward depravity and decadence. History has taught us this over and over again. We’re all recklessly dancing on the tip-toe edge of a volcano, and sooner or later, we’re going to have to ride that wave to hell, whether we saw it coming or not.
We all saw the signs for what they were and we were all aware of the lessons that history has been trying to teach us, but we still arrogantly thought that we knew better. Rome and Greece fell in exacly the same way but on a much smaller scale. This time the scale is global. Our enemies are watching our society with baited breath as we become even more and more obsessed with sex and simulated violence, self-entitled lifestyles and Lady Gaga and even less in tune with the nightmare we’ve created for ourselves. When all is said and done, the joke will be on us.
If you’re still in denial, just take a look at the nihilistic behavior and attitudes of the overwhelming majority of youth today. Imagine what will happen when the older generations finally die off and the world is left to these kids. As much as I hate being a cynical fatalist, it’s too hard to ignore the glaring fact that we’ve already passed the point of no return and all there is left to do is to seriously reflect on how **all** of us let our world come to this point. All we can do now is try to make life a little better for those immediately around us.
January 21, 2011 at 9:35 am | | Report comment
Kids experiment, such as ALL normal kids do. I have found in my many years on this planet, it is the kids who are sheltered, controlled, confined, that turn out to be nutcases. The kids who grow up learned, experimenting, worldly, become very healthy and free thinking adults who help carve this beautiful world and bring about new and exciting changes. ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN SPOON FED RELIGION SINCE YOU WERE BORN, im looking forward to when your lives end.
January 21, 2011 at 10:22 am | | Report comment
So are we because we have something to look forward to; do you? I’m a community mental health counselor and can tell you that your statements about kids growing up learned and experimenting are often NOT well rounded individuals. On the contrary, their “experimentation” is often not begun by them or their little friends, but by adults who feel it is their “duty” to either “enlighten them about the glories of sex” or didn’t care about anyone but themselves and their own sexual needs. I’m hoping, after reading several similar comments that you are just using different names by which to sign in. Otherwise, I understand why many respondents on here find the west coast so deplorable.
January 21, 2011 at 6:22 pm
The Culture of Death.If we stop abortion God will Bless again.
January 21, 2011 at 6:53 pm | | Report comment
** This pedophile extravaganza brought to you by the American Federation of Teachers. Shut up and pay for my full pension and medical. I’ll be over here not doing my job. Thank you. **
January 21, 2011 at 9:35 am | | Report comment
Women do not get punished when they abuse children.
January 21, 2011 at 9:38 am | | Report comment
Second Graders learned How to do the sex acts from somewhere? They would not know how to do these things without direct instruction. Is this what we send our children to school to learn? The teacher should be put away on Rape charges.
January 21, 2011 at 9:39 am | | Report comment
MM your kidding right? first off the fact that you make light of this makes me worry and hope that you have no kids…second we are not a liberal society we are a right leaning society and no matter what way this country leans, everyone gets that this is WRONG! and people that dont need not to be around children.
January 21, 2011 at 9:40 am | | Report comment
Midia
“I think the kids were well supervised. Just nobody stopped them.”
Midia—You probably do not understand how StupiD your statement is!
January 21, 2011 at 9:40 am | | Report comment
To all the people who thought it was a good idea to banish God from the classroom, this is your reward: a complete absence of morality. Nice going, people.
January 21, 2011 at 9:43 am | | Report comment
Ain’t liberalism grand..??..
January 21, 2011 at 9:43 am | | Report comment
It could have been worse, if happened when the kids were home schooled.
January 21, 2011 at 9:43 am | | Report comment
No mention of the gender of the teacher. My guess would be male and probably a pedophile and/or gay. Also a union member and probably a member of the DNP. Is there no limit to the depravity of those living around the SF Bay area? I’m amazed that those living in the area actually support this kind of behavor by continuing to elect extreme left wing liberals to positions of authority.
January 21, 2011 at 9:44 am | | Report comment
HEY THIS IS SAN FRANCSCO .. WHY EXPECT ANYTHING ELSE … ITS BEYYOND BELIEF HOW SICK AND DERANGED THE LIBERALS ARE IN THAT CITY .. THIS TEACHER SHOULD BE INDICTED AND SENT TO JAIL FOR A VERY LONG TIME … BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, THIS IS THE ENVRIONMENT THAT HAS BEEN CREATED WITH THE MTV CULTURE AND PROGRESSIVE THINKING … ALL THEPARENT S THAT PROTESTED LETTING RELGION INTO THE CLASSROOM NOW KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING INSTEAD … THE RELIGON OF REE SEX STARTING AT AGE 7
January 21, 2011 at 9:44 am | | Report comment
A 7 year old cant get another 7 year old pregnant. So whats your problem with kids experimenting. Get over yourself. Im so glad religion is taken out of classrooms,, now all we need to do is get it taken off the planet. Then we can start concentrating on important issues.
January 21, 2011 at 10:18 am | | Report comment
someone should check to see if MM is a paedophile
January 21, 2011 at 9:44 am | | Report comment
I don’t think there is an easy test for that yet, lol. -Like peeing in a cup? Yeah, just “check”.
January 25, 2011 at 6:55 am | | Report comment
Hey, the union said it was OK
January 21, 2011 at 9:45 am | | Report comment
Why is anyone shocked over this story? It is typical behavior in San Francisco. Gay and same sex marriage policies have eroded any sense of decency or morality. Sodom & Gomorra…..
January 21, 2011 at 9:47 am | | Report comment
I would rather live in a world of pervs than a world of Religious control freaks. Thank Allah for individuality!! All praise Buddha! And jesus? y ou can have out with us too, im sure your naked under that robe you wear…
January 21, 2011 at 10:16 am | | Report comment
What a pathetic city–the teacher was “Suspended”—how about fired or even arrested?! Oh yeah, it’s San Francisco– you’d have to site God or speak against Radical Islamic Terrorists or praise the USA to get fired. Pathetic place with pathetic people, raising pathetic children, taught by pathetic teachers!
January 21, 2011 at 9:48 am | | Report comment
Pathetic people are people who DONT teach their kids about sex, drugs, and rock n roll in the proper manners. i was taught at these kids age all about sex, and that kept me from being too curious about it. You right wing fundamentalist are insane to think your kids arent normal human beings with normal human curiosities about the things normal humans DO. Teach your kids about everything and they wont have to experiment to discover what its all about. But i know, American religious nutcases think their kids should stay unmarried and unlearned until they meet their soul-mate and please GOD. And thats why truly devout Religious people should all be sterilized.
January 21, 2011 at 10:14 am | | Report comment
We should all stop passing the buck. Until an arrest is made in this case, not the union or administration can really comment. Don’t get it twisted by my comment. I don’t know whose at fault, however, the blame game needs to stop. I don’t support one side. Just an observer. Tv, movies, and internet shows some sort of sexual content.
January 21, 2011 at 9:49 am | | Report comment
This is proof that Jesus is coming back soon! With all of the immorality going on and people think it is just fine. The Bible says in the last days immorality will be worse than ever. People will be lovers of money, of themselves and sexual sin will be worse than ever.
January 21, 2011 at 9:50 am | | Report comment
This isn’t proof of that at all. Read and study your Bible rather than the headlines in the newspapers. You just might learn something.
January 21, 2011 at 10:16 am | | Report comment
This is absolutely disgusting. Interesting that they don’t indicate the age or gender of the teacher, I think those facts would give a bit of clarity to this matter. Either way, the teacher should be charged with several counts of sexual abuse of a mnor and facilitating a sex act between minors, and the parents of all involved should be investigated for child abuse. In any other state, that’s exactly what would happen, but we’re talking California, where it’s ok to drive with your kids unbuckled on your lap and hang them off a balcony 3 stories up. Shame on the authorities for not taking this more seriously.
January 21, 2011 at 9:51 am | | Report comment
@Midia, I don’t know how you define “well supervised,” but you fit my definition of an idiot.
“I think the kids were well supervised. Just nobody stopped them.” -Midia
January 21, 2011 at 9:53 am | | Report comment
I’m mortified. What is this nation doing to it’s children today? They are being corrupted, abused, exploited from nearly all directions. We’re becoming a nation of perverts. Soon someone who stays pure will be considered the pervert. I feel so sad. How can this happen? Suspended? This teacher should be thrown in the slammer for life.
January 21, 2011 at 9:54 am | | Report comment
Maybe the teacher was present, but like almost ALL teachers, wasnt watching the class at all. I had a teacher leave the class to go smoke a joint in the bathroom, and i considered him the BEST teacher we had. I hate right wing nutcases. I love liberal people and that way of thinking, keeps the world unique and ever changing!
January 21, 2011 at 10:11 am | | Report comment
no, she was white. ha
glad you left the west coast. More racist people like you should just disappear.
January 21, 2011 at 9:55 am | | Report comment
Concern about the drop out rate, teenage pregnancies, crime rates, welfare rate, etc, etc in the black “community” is racist?
January 21, 2011 at 11:48 am | | Report comment
Tool. The sooner your state gets annexed by Mexico the better.
January 21, 2011 at 6:09 pm | | Report comment
Good idea. I twill just quicken the decline and it will be over for CA that much faster. I understand your feelings, cannot have people actually be expected to take responsibility for their behavior, right?
January 21, 2011 at 10:13 pm | | Report comment
We do live in a liberal society, unfortunately. And people like MM are only being consistent in their liberalism.
January 21, 2011 at 9:56 am | | Report comment
Why are people surprised. It’s San Francisco.
I’m surprised there were no donkeys or chickens involved.
January 21, 2011 at 9:57 am | | Report comment
Sorry folks bad parenting leads to bad kids. Buck up and take some responsibility. Be a man and stay with your family, stop trying to be your kids friend and be a parent, turn off the boob tube babysitter and spend some time with your kids, stop doing drugs and cheating on your spouse, turn to Jesus for love and forgiveness and a way of life that leads to obedience, peace, community and respect for others.
January 21, 2011 at 9:57 am | | Report comment
I love the “Turn to jesus” stuff, gets me laughing every time! Religious nutcases are the funniest people, always waiting for Jesus to come save them from themselves.
January 21, 2011 at 10:09 am | | Report comment
when you are in Hell ,you will not be laughing anymore.Read the Rich man and Lazarus in the Bible.Hell is scary BAD. Please ask God for faith.Jesus loves you and Jesus does not want you in Hell. Sadly,some choose Hell.—-until they get there but than it is eternal. Personally,I am terrified of Hell. As long as you have breath,God’s mercy is available for all.
January 21, 2011 at 10:23 am
Iv had a near death experience in wich i became one with the Light you religious nuts only read about. The light, is infinate, the light, creates everything we see, including us. Therefore, GOD, IS everything. INcluding, US. Therefore, the only hell you can witness, is the one you create for yourself. There is no old man with a beard waiting to punish you. Sorry, you were brainwashed with the worst kind of thinking.
January 21, 2011 at 11:11 am
MM = KT
January 21, 2011 at 9:57 am | | Report comment
Markham
MORE LIKE ARKHAM AMIRITE
January 21, 2011 at 10:00 am | | Report comment
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January 21, 2011 at 10:01 am | | Report comment
And why was the teacher not immediately arrested for child porn and similar offenses for letting all this happen? Suspension is NOT the punishment!
January 21, 2011 at 10:01 am | | Report comment
The parents or guardians of these children are apparently having sex in their child’s presence or sexually abusing them. No child that young thinks about sex on a level that they would actually remove their colthes in class or perform a sex act in the classroom. They need their innocence at their age to grow up as normal well adjusted people.
January 21, 2011 at 10:04 am | | Report comment
I learned about sex at age 7. Although I never had the opportunity to perform any sex acts at school, I had many young females my age who were more than willing to perform them outside of school or in private places. Sex is natural, and you cant get pregnant at that age anyways. STDs SHOULD not be present in kids that age, but who knows? My point is, the place was wrong, but the act of it was as natural as pimples on a teen. Get over yourselves you uptight right wing nutcases. These kids did what every kid does, EXPERIMENT!
January 21, 2011 at 10:06 am | | Report comment
The problem you fail to realize is that kids don’t understand the emotional and physical consequences of reckless sex on themselves nor on society as a whole. Nobody is arguing that sex is bad, but it becomes something bad when it is recklessly abused and promoted as a pastime like golf. Of course children have always experimented with their sexuality but never before in history has it been so rampant and openly and pervasively glorified as it is now. And the fact that you learned about the ins and outs of sex at age 7 and as an adult you don’t find anything wrong with two 8 year olds having sex in a CLASSROOM FULL OF OTHER KIDS (and not to mention a teacher who by the sound of it, did absolutely nothing to stop it) proves my point exactly. The more that kids are exposed to it when they are young–be it through the internet, tv, peers or whatever–the less likely they are to have any moral compass when they become adults. Why else do you think the easiest time to teach someone is when they are a child? Our society didn’t become this way overnight. It got to this point as a result of years and decades of slowly growing permissiveness of a little of this and a little of that. In the end, nothing will be off-limits! Mark my words, at the rate we’re going, legal and tolerated sex between adult and child and/or animal is not far off. Someone with your line of thinking would most likely say that that could never possibly happen. But the funny thing is that people 50 years ago could never have possibly imagined what our society today has become. You’re looking at this from the eye of the storm, so to speak. You have to look at it from a historical viewpoint in order to see what kind of effect this type of behavior has on society as a whole over a period of time. Kids for the most part today are being taught by tv, internet and even their guardians that sex should be treated as nothing more than a pastime that they can experience with whomever they please. Add to that the fact that drug use has never been more pervasive than it is now and that kids nowadays have an overwhelming sense of selfishness and self-entitlement. What possible effect and outcome do you think this mix will have on these kids as a whole when they grow up???
January 21, 2011 at 10:47 am | | Report comment
If an adult wants to have sex with anything, be it animals, fruits, veggies, furniture, etc etc, is their own personal prerogative. And yes, i would support it.
Kids cant get pregnant, and sure, doing it in a classroom should surly be off limits. But the kids gotta learn about it one way or another. Look on the bright side, at least STDs dont run rampant in kids, and they cant get pregnant, so stop whining about it.
Oh, and by the way, since the dawn of time, man and woman have experimented at every age imaginable. Sex is for procreation, to think that there is any more to it than that is purely based on nothing but religious fundamentalism. When all religions are made obsolete, this world can finally move forward in unity.
January 21, 2011 at 11:16 am
Jimmy, seven, well my, my, aren’t we cool! At seven I was playing cowboys, army, Sorry, football, baseball, tag, hide and seek, cards, marbles, such boring things when I could have been “experimenting” with sex like you. I feel deprived!! I grew up married, raised a family, enjoyed our love life, am widowed after 40 years with a wonderful girl, but man if only, of only, I had the benefit of Jimmy’s sex experiments The most blessed and happy time of childhood and innocence I cherish is being denied to many kids today, a time, if lost, cannot be recaptured. Jimmy my boy license is not freedom, hedonism not happiness and your typical leftwing accusation about conservatives being “uptight” about sex is a knee jerk stupid barb. It’s trite and unimaginative. Being responsible and not treating sex as a mere pass time and itch is not being uptight. Sex is a wonderful and powerful human drive and should not be trivialized, abased, and thrust on the young. Imperfect, we all are, but trying to be responsible and respectful about the power of sex is a good thing and should not be dismissed by people such as you as repression.
January 21, 2011 at 11:20 am | | Report comment
I’m concerned where the kids picked up the idea from. TV? A movie? siblings? Parents? Also concerned about the kids. That’s pretty traumatic to do something socially unacceptable like this. Think they need counseling. But imagine having to look back and face the fact you had done this type of thing. 20 years later someone come up to you and asks “Wheren’t you the one in second gard who …”
January 21, 2011 at 10:06 am | | Report comment
I just have to shake my head at the people who think we live in a “right of center” society rather than a liberal one. If today’s America is “right of center” then how would you describe the America of Washington’s day? How about the America in the days of the Puritans? America must have been a far far far far right of center country in those days!
The fact that anyone would even think this country is anything other than liberal shows just how down the liberal road we’ve gone. The only way you could describe today’s America as “right of center” is if you define “center” in relation to the far left. Yeah, mainstream America is still to the right of the likes of George Soros and Nancy Pelosi, but that ain’t saying much, and it hardly proves that we’re not a liberal society.
January 21, 2011 at 10:09 am | | Report comment
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January 21, 2011 at 10:09 am | | Report comment
I graduated from high school in 1962, and I can definitely, positively, absolutely state that there were no sex acts in class during my 12 years in school, no nudity in the classroom, no blatant sex on television, no continual dirty jokes on television, no possibility of children seeing pornography, and no sex education in the schools. Not only was nobody injured by this “repression”, but most of us grew up to be normal, useful adults. When morality was thrown out the window and the anti-obscenity laws were junked, then began the universal and non-stop sexual abuse of children. The schools are guilty of it, the entertainment business is guilty of it, the government is guilty of it, and the society is guilty of it. The whole nation should be taken to court for shoving obscenity to the point of degradation into the minds of young children.
January 21, 2011 at 10:11 am | | Report comment
But the judges would throw out the case because they are just as immoral as the rest. Honestly. I totally agree with you.
January 21, 2011 at 10:20 am | | Report comment
From 1945 to 1963 was the greatest era in the history of the USA.Though the era was not perfect,most children that grew up in that era were very lucky.Most families were very stable and took care of each other, then(even black families were solid then).The mother could stay home and be a real mother and housewife(the most important jobs in the universe), then.The men home from the wartime were real MEN and took care of their family and appreciated God and their life and the life of others(even life in the womb–no legal abortion).The TV was Ossie and Harriet. The music was goodness in sound.We were lucky.I cannot imagine how any child in public (obama) school can grow up good in this Culture of Death of today
January 21, 2011 at 11:06 am | | Report comment
I remember seeing Gavin Nuisance mock-performing oral sex on a reporter’s microphone a couple of years ago when he became annoyed with a question that was asked him. The whole mindset of liberal California is disgusting – and you wonder how something like this could possibly happen in the classroom.
January 21, 2011 at 10:15 am | | Report comment
MASS SPONTANEOUS NUDITY AMONG 7 YEAR OLDS ??? ARE YOU F’ING KIDDING ME ??? THE TEACHER WAS PRESENT ??? What is this reporter smoking? These kids were instructed by the teacher to take their clothes off, and most likely, directed/encouraged by the teacher to have the kids perform sex acts on each other. He/She should be arrested. Fact that she hasn’t been charged is probably due to teacher’s union trying to cover it up.
If this were a priest it would be a national story and the 3 major news newtowrks (plus CNN) would be blaming it on Bristol Palin’s teen pregnancy.
January 21, 2011 at 10:18 am | | Report comment
Human social environments progressively become more pagan as rules of conduct lax, as a result of personal choices, lack of enforcement, increased indivualism, or from greater influences of control over social norms by support from instutitions and individuals that promote self-centered philosphies.
January 21, 2011 at 10:21 am | | Report comment
come on, it’s one thing if there playing doctor in the coat room, but performing oral sex acts, points to the fact that they must have seen it at some point, most likely a parents porn collection. i would not judge the teacher until i knew the class size and the poverty level the kids are coming from. 50 kids given no direction at home could be more then a handful. 18 kids in a small middle class classroom is a whole other thing. Also sex at such a young age can be very harmful, causing emotional regression and social disability, given the context of our society
January 21, 2011 at 10:22 am | | Report comment
This is not surprising. The Oakland schools do not teach nor provide supervision to black students. I have first hand knowledge of the destruction of lives. People want to blame the parents. There is nothing black parents can do. The schools are so undisciplined that you are dealing with so many behavior problems your child picks-up at school that it is overwhelming. I fault black parent for continuing to vote for the people who are responsible for the destruction of our children lives and creating an unfair perception of our race. The administration is not organized, they lie to your face because they think you are just a dumb Democrat and they have nothing to worry about.
January 21, 2011 at 10:22 am | | Report comment
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LMAO – hey left coast, how is that liberal thing working out for you? Clearly the union teacher just needs to be paid more and than little bit more and…. LMAO…
January 21, 2011 at 10:22 am | | Report comment
Had a poopy in my pants once.
It smelled
January 21, 2011 at 10:24 am | | Report comment
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Sounds fake. 15 minutes of fame?? Wrong!!
January 21, 2011 at 10:25 am | | Report comment
It’s all Sarah Palin’s fault. It may as well be. She gets blamed for everything…
January 21, 2011 at 10:28 am | | Report comment
Wow….this is unbelievable! I don’t even know what to say.
January 21, 2011 at 10:28 am | | Report comment
Two simple words : Mom and Dad
Come on people. People like to blame this on everything else but the parents. You reap what you sow. Their parents aren’t doing a damned thing except dropping their kids off at school.
January 21, 2011 at 10:30 am | | Report comment
Yet people wonder why conservatives want to do away with government teachers. This is a perfect example.
The NEA is no better than the pedophile “priests”, yet the media gives them a pass.
January 21, 2011 at 10:31 am | | Report comment
Katie wrote, “More racist people like you should just disappear.”
Thanks, Katie. Clearly, when two 2nd graders are performing hard core sex acts, the problem is…wait for it…racism. Nice.
Oh, and thanks to Dave in NYC. Who knew that the solution to this mess was so simple? 8 year olds don’t need to quit having sex…nah, the little tykes just need to grow up a little faster!
Today oral sex, what’s on the lesson plan for tomorrow, Dave? Fisting? Or how about teabagging? You leftists seem kind of fond of that one lately.
Is it not enough that you have degraded yourselves? Must your depravity corrupt even these little ones?
Be warned: There is a millstone and a fiery sea waiting for your necks on the other side of eternity. Repent while there is still time.
January 21, 2011 at 10:31 am | | Report comment
A couple generations of porn, drugs, and moral relativism and this is what you get.
As much as it pains me to bring up, religious teachings keep these behaviors in check in society. Without some kind of moral guidance or instructions, we just all devolve back into our monkey selves. How disappointing.
January 21, 2011 at 10:33 am | | Report comment
WHAT about these teachers doing their jobs – how much is CA spending on teachers just like this who cannot go in classrooms because they are deviants – yet CA unions protect them – please wake up.
January 21, 2011 at 10:52 am | | Report comment
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This is not good
January 21, 2011 at 10:36 am | | Report comment
You guys in Californication are really something else. How long before this becomes part of the standard curriculum?
January 21, 2011 at 10:41 am | | Report comment
Ten bucks says that not only does the teacher not get fired, he or she gets a new job in SF with a raise and publishes the pictures on Facebook.
January 21, 2011 at 10:44 am | | Report comment
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“the suspended teacher, whose name was not released by the school district, was present for both of the incidents”
Who wants to bet this a female teacher, if it were a man they would print his name and he would be in jail.
Thanks feminism!
January 21, 2011 at 10:44 am | | Report comment
Just reinforces mu belief that San Fran is composed by mostly sick people, has been that way for some time. Even before the wealthy Pelosi came down the track.
Now go bankrupt yourself, and then come crawling to the rest of the nation begging.
January 21, 2011 at 10:45 am | | Report comment
How quickly will the Teacher’s Union jump in? California – you elected these liberal democrats – what were you thinking?
January 21, 2011 at 10:49 am | | Report comment
Where is the moral outrage. This is beyond outrageous! The principle’s response was equally outrageous. Inappropriate conduct?! Are we to governed morally by controlling the rhetoric? If this is the way public schools operate, is this really where you want your kids? In my day that teacher would have been marched out in handcuffs and tried.
January 21, 2011 at 10:50 am | | Report comment
Life in Pelosi-ville. Do you people have any idea how much of a freak she is??
I blame the entire reprehensible mess out there to she and her maggot infested socialist lib peeps….you all got what you voted for…
Unbelievable…enjoy that.
January 21, 2011 at 10:51 am | | Report comment
@David in NYC re: 01 21 11 at 10:02 — You cannot be serious. The TEACHER is present and, considering the authority of his position, orchestrating the whole episode; how is this even remotely acceptible? A classroom filled with 6-8 year-old children, stripped to the skin – how is this not a pedophile’s paradise? And one must consider the lengths gone to in order to coerce these children into doing something that would (or should) otherwise be repellant and disgusting to them.
How can you be anything other than outraged at this?!
January 21, 2011 at 10:52 am | | Report comment
Let’s condem the teacher before the facts are in…we like doing this over and over and destroying someones life over what, in many recent cases, has turned into BS and made up lies…I just love you “moral rights” “Judge not lest ye be judged”…
January 21, 2011 at 10:52 am | | Report comment
To David, we are “repressed?” Sex is evil? It’s EVERYWHERE! Second grade! Are you kidding? You have no problem with this? We have debased human sexuality to the point it is a mere passtime, shallow, devoid of love. foisted on the very young, making them sexual beings even before puberty. License and self indulgence rules. As a culture we deserve the fruits we are sowing in the degredation of human dignity.
January 21, 2011 at 10:55 am | | Report comment
This guy should go to death penalty chamber…
January 21, 2011 at 10:57 am | | Report comment
It’s okay, it’s Oakland, the second graders were probably 14 or 15 years old, right?
January 21, 2011 at 10:57 am | | Report comment
Go Oakland ! Here’s hoping this town slides off into the bay.
January 21, 2011 at 10:58 am | | Report comment
I guess the small fortune I spend every month sending my kids to a private school is worth it. This is an OUTRAGE!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 10:59 am | | Report comment
I RESENT THE WAY THE PUBLIC SCHOOL ARE RUINING OUR CHILDREN HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
THE TWO CHILDREN WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THIS NIGHTMARE SHOULD HAVE THEIR FAMILIES ANSWER, TO FIND OUT HOW THESE KIDS KNOW ABOUT ORAL SEX AND WHY THE KIDS TOOK OFF THEIR CLOTHES IN FRONT OF THE CLASS.
I HAVE PHONED THE SCHOOL AND THE DISTRICT, RUDE AND DEFENSIVE…NOT EVEN A LITTEL ASHAMED OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
January 21, 2011 at 11:00 am | | Report comment
Every problem is a leadership problem, in this case the administration has not taken the effort of screening teachers, adequately supervising them and now is not being direct enough about the offense. The buck stops at the top. Start over with a new school board if you need to….problems like this are endemic. This is just the tip of a much bigger iceberg. This teacher has been emboldened over time by his peer relationships and their cultural mores. .
January 21, 2011 at 11:00 am | | Report comment
Problems like these begin in the home. Get a clue
January 21, 2011 at 11:03 am | | Report comment
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
January 21, 2011 at 11:02 am | | Report comment
Where is the investigation into the homes of these students? Once again the teacher is guilty of not having raised someone else’s children correctly. These kids didn’t learn this just at school. There is a serious disconnect at the family level but it is much easier to just use a teacher as a scapegoat.
January 21, 2011 at 11:02 am | | Report comment
WAKE UP AMERICA – of course MTV and pretty much all the media is to blame! This is so getting out of hand. Watch the first 15 minutes of Peter Jackson’s King Kong – the scene where Ann goes the Burlesque theater to work – the posters on the walls show the PORN from back in the 1930′s – women dressed in basically a one piece swimsuit with stocking all the way up her legs and gloves covering her hands and arms – very little skin AND THAT WAS THE PORN! Now you can’t take your kids to the mall to shop with out have to cover their eyes as you pass Victoria’s Secret AND OTHER STORES with LARGER THAN LIFE ALMOST NAKED woman postered all over the place. WAKE UP AMERICA! It’s the “Frog in the pot of boiling water” – little at a time – “don’t judge”, let it slide, etc,
Turn on “the family hour” on tv and watch the commercials, watch ABC’s “Family” channel – watch previews for shows like “Wildfire” – the commericals for it air all day – it’s all about sex – young people all over each other – on ABC “Family Channel”.
Look at the commercials on TV, listen to the lyrics to the songs. What is acceptable today was the HORRIBLE stuff ONLY A FEW SHORT YEARS AGO!
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW. Imagine how bad it will be 20 years from now! I know, “settle down”, it’s not a big deal, etc. I challenge YOU to “draw the line”, say when “enough is enough” then watch as that “line” gets pushed back over and over until either YOU’RE the “extremeist” only a few years from now OR worse, you’ve gotten “used to the water” and accept it.
God save us from ourselves!
January 21, 2011 at 11:04 am | | Report comment
Very sad…
January 21, 2011 at 11:04 am | | Report comment
Pedophile.
January 21, 2011 at 11:04 am | | Report comment
@ David in NYC
So you’re ok with 2nd graders fellating each other? And if I have a problem with that it’s because I’m sexually repressed? Please ….
No one can look at our current culture and say we are such horrible prudes when it come to sex. We use sex to sell everything, and increasingly we see younger and younger children being sexualized on television programming (Glee, MTV’s Skin, etc). Sex is a great and wonderful thing, but it isn’t something that we should be fostering in 2nd graders.
January 21, 2011 at 11:08 am | | Report comment
I am sure the studends had a secret place where the teacher could not view the 2nd grade studens having sex with each other. Also, when the kids get silent, and are watching the other studens having sex, the last thing on the teacher sitting behind the desk is that the students are having sex with each other, and thought everything was fine. – When the principal would sit with the class, nobody would tell the principal what happended, and not till some studends tell their parents does the school district blame the teacher, and not the school administration for this tragedy.
“Troy Flint, the spokesman for the Oakland Unified School District, told CBS 5 on Thursday. “Of course, it is hard to understand how that could have occurred.” – That’s because it’s a system failure of Oakland Unified school district, and not the teacher’s fault whereby the Oakland unified schoold district should be sued for all their worth. – One way Oakland unified save money from lawsuits is by blaming the teacher. Who set-up the classroom, and allowed for this type of possibility to happen? More like an act of god, and not the teacher’s fault.
“Flint indicated that the suspended teacher, whose name was not released by the school district, was present for both of the incidents.” – That’s because the teacher is a good teacher, and shows up to class everyday, and shame on Flint for blaming the teacher, when there were no complaints before on how the teacher taught the class.
“Flint and Markham principal Pam Booker said they were limited in terms of the details they could release at this time because of the ongoing investigation into the matter.” Flint and Markham should also be fired from the school district for overseeing theis diaster.
January 21, 2011 at 11:08 am | | Report comment
or the kids were black and the teacher was a white male butt-bunny..
January 21, 2011 at 11:11 am | | Report comment
I was home schooled. My teachers were great and taught me everything they could. If they needed help, we had a group that taught the tougher courses in a family friendly environment. I’m currently on an academic scholarship with Texas A & M.
I’m glad that I didn’t have to go to a school like the one above.
January 21, 2011 at 11:12 am | | Report comment
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Oh, this is just an example of diversity and multiculturalism. We can’t be so judgemental here. Also, it’s probably racist to object to this.
January 21, 2011 at 11:16 am | | Report comment
Everybody is getting blame here. MTV, media, society, godlessness…
Does anybody blame the pedophile teacher that obviously coerced this? Admittedly, I didn’t read all of the comments. I probably missed some sane comments.
January 21, 2011 at 11:17 am | | Report comment
This is obviously Sarah Palin’s fault.
January 21, 2011 at 11:17 am | | Report comment
This UNION teacher was only “suspended”, NOT “fired”. This UNION teacher will continue to receive a paycheck on behalf of the taxpayers of California.
January 21, 2011 at 11:18 am | | Report comment
This irresponsible excluse for a ‘teacher’ has a lot of explaining to do, and not just now. The New Testament (Matt 18:6) states;
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
There’s a special place awaiting this ‘teacher’.
January 21, 2011 at 11:22 am | | Report comment
Heterosexuals are just trouble…even at an early age. They need to be banned from teaching in public schools….just look at the things they allow kids to do!
January 21, 2011 at 11:22 am | | Report comment
I’m still laughing inside at how clueless many adults are. It is INTERNET PORN and its constant availability and ease of access that has our children exposed to sexual content that only decade ago would have been found stashed in the back room of a seedy adult porn shop. The mostly men on here who talk about sexual repression and there is nothing wrong with sex and porn are delusional. Sneaking glimpses out of a Playboy as a preteen in the 70s or 80s IS NOT equivalent to watching a hard core videos of group sex, sex followed by beatings, women with farm animals, and truly outrageous sexual depictions which are freely available with a few mouse clicks. Wake up people this is destroying sexuality, and destroying our children’s innocence when they are not even close to handing this material. This is an example of what is happening more and more because of free internet porn. Thank the liberals for this wonderful “sexual revolution”
January 21, 2011 at 11:22 am | | Report comment
It’s California. There’s been no morals there for 30 years. This doesn’t surprise me. I bet Obama’s union thugs will make sure this teacher doesn’t get fired; they’ll just be relocated.
January 21, 2011 at 11:23 am | | Report comment
I am a teacher of 24 years and always supervise my students well. I could see this happening if the teacher had left the room for a long period of time and had not left another teacher in charge. I know sometimes I have to use therestroom, so I get another teacher to watch my classroom or call the office and have thme send someone down to watch my room. I have always done this. Sometimes you just cant hold it and teachers do not get a bethroom break like the kids do. It makes it hard when you ron 80mg of lasix.
I have heard students talk about what they watch on TV at home and some have told me that their parents watch porn in front of them. I always refer these students to my principal and guidance counselor. I don’t see how this could have happened with the teacher in the room unless the teacher is blind. I do remember a teacher telling me about something like this happening a long time ago. She could not find the students and they were in the closet playing doctor. There was not nudity – they were just touching when the teacher caught them. I personally keep my closet doors locked in myu classroom.
Withh our new Director of Education in the Fed Govt, I am sure he would allow this and this it was OK. since he wants to teach children about gay sex as yound at K.
January 21, 2011 at 11:23 am | | Report comment
Kids being raised by stupid parents clearly. Any kind of sex between 8 year olds is NEVER a good thing. Period.. At that age, all they should know is good touch and bad touch.. I am glad I live in the regular world.
January 21, 2011 at 11:27 am | | Report comment
I approve
January 21, 2011 at 11:27 am | | Report comment
What the hell is going on in this country???
January 21, 2011 at 11:29 am | | Report comment
California, do you feel as disgusted as I do with the lefty dominated California teachers union? Do you feel disgusted with having supported the lefty California public school system with your tax money? I for one will be first in line to vote out the remaining California liberal school administers and congressional representatives in Nov. 2012!!!!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 11:30 am | | Report comment
David in NYC, you are obviously a pervert. A word of caution. Stay away from my grandchildren.
January 21, 2011 at 11:30 am | | Report comment
The teacher did a wonderful service for the students and community by allowing these kids to perform oral sex. Now they know that sex should be performed in a safe loving environment with adult supervision.
People who disagree with me are haters and close minded.
OBAMA-2012
January 21, 2011 at 11:30 am | | Report comment
PAUL BEGALA, I am sure that isnt your real name coward..
The probability of your IQ being above 10 = 9%
January 21, 2011 at 11:30 am | | Report comment
“I’m still laughing inside at how clueless many adults are. It is INTERNET PORN and its constant availability and ease of access that has our children exposed to sexual content that only decade ago would have been found stashed in the back room of a seedy adult porn shop. ”
So you’re saying you agree with this new California policy? That’s it right to conduct these courses in an elementary school?
January 21, 2011 at 11:32 am | | Report comment
What happened to reading comprehension skills? Did you bother to read my full post? Obviously not!
January 21, 2011 at 11:43 am | | Report comment
@Dr. Bombay re: 01 21 11 at 07:44 — Ignoramus! Dolt! Moron!!
You, like everyone else who quotes Scripture to denigrate God, fail to understand it. Those directives were to the Chosen of God – His people – in order to raise them to a standard of excellence that would be an example to the rest of us. Regardless of whether they succeeded or failed, this was the reason for it. This was the case in the Old (Mosaic) Covenant.
Under the New (Christ) Covenant, grace and mercy were to replace the judgment and punishment practiced upon the adherents of the Mosaic Law. That this has not even generally – let alone universally – been the case under Christianity these many centuries is going to be a dark matter for those who were authorities in the Church – but it does not place Christians under the jurisdiction of the Mosaic Law.
Ass. Fool. Prating Coxcomb.
January 21, 2011 at 11:34 am | | Report comment
tHE LEFT COAST ////WACKOLAND !
January 21, 2011 at 11:34 am | | Report comment
The school is 99% non-White. This is no surprise.
January 21, 2011 at 11:35 am | | Report comment
How did these kids think of this and then do it. I don’t think the teacher is all to blame. I think home influence is mainly at fault. The kids did not just go to school one day and learn all this. Lack of supervision at home. Parents are not being parents anymore, they throw their kids in front of the TV or computer, and in their mind instant babysitter. Then they blame the schools when the parents don’t even show up for the parent teacher meetings, or help the kids with the homework, help at the school, in other words they are to busy being self involved to care what their kids do until something like this happens then it is all the schools fault. I am not saying the teacher has no blame, but now days the teacher can not discipline the students. And if the school calls they get the parent saying, not my Johnny or Susie. The teacher should of been better at supervising, but it all starts at home.
January 21, 2011 at 11:35 am | | Report comment
I smell a lawsuit for the Oakland Unified School District coming on, they should be sued by the parents for overseeing, and approving the classroom setting where the teacher was not at fault, and fire the rest of the Oakland School District for allowing this to happen.
January 21, 2011 at 11:42 am | | Report comment
I said the teacher was wrong, but it does all start at home.
January 21, 2011 at 11:48 am
2 second graders in OAKLAND?
That could mean two 16 year-olds…
January 21, 2011 at 11:40 am | | Report comment
Maybe the teacher was teaching them want to do. This could have been just a class assignment. Liberal agenda.
January 21, 2011 at 11:41 am | | Report comment
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Investigate this teacher immediately! Something doesn’t add up here!
January 21, 2011 at 11:43 am | | Report comment
Oakland Public Schools? The school administration is just lucky that no one in the 2nd grade was packing heat and capping their classmates over drug-distribution territory.
January 21, 2011 at 11:44 am | | Report comment
I say there is a fairly good chance the teacher is a perv who was getting off watching this happen. There is a 0% chance that two kids are going to go down on one another in a classroom and not have the teacher be fully aware of what is happening. Think about it.
January 21, 2011 at 11:46 am | | Report comment
Welcome to California….just another reason why I left 15 yrs ago!!!
January 21, 2011 at 11:46 am | | Report comment
Wow 2nd grades in class and the teacher let this happen I would be furious as a parent!
Where did these kids learn this behavior? Their innocence has been taken from them how sad I am lost for words!! End times are coming that was the Devil in that classroom that day!!
January 21, 2011 at 11:46 am | | Report comment
Shaneequa and Deshawn’s parents must be very proud….
January 21, 2011 at 11:47 am | | Report comment
When America threw God out of every institution, we were left with no moral compass. Of course, if we evolved from animals, and we teach this in our indoctrination centers (public schools), and we say that religion is a private matter, and we don’t think there are any absolutes, hell, why then are we surprised when our children reflect the behavior of their teachers (parents, government leaders, teachers are the role models for our children – that’s just how it works folks).
January 21, 2011 at 11:49 am | | Report comment
Just new sex education curriculum. Check out Donna Shalala ex- Surgeon General of the U.S. Also, check out the ethicity of the school.
http://california.schooltree.org/public/Markham-Elementary-010766.html
January 21, 2011 at 11:52 am | | Report comment
This comes as a “shock” in the San Francisco/Oakland area? I guess the only part of this that comes as a shock is they didn’t have two boys doing it with each other instead. To say that such is not being taught by the hate-filled liberals in our country would be a flat out lie, regradless of how often or how loudly they deny it. This has been the hopes and dreams of the bigots that call telling the truth a hate crime. This is only the first time I have seen such mention in the mainstream media.
January 21, 2011 at 12:00 pm | | Report comment
You’re all racists. Sex between 8 year-olds is very common in AFRICA.
Who are you to judge?
January 21, 2011 at 12:02 pm | | Report comment
Have we moved ? Last time I looked California was in the USA
January 21, 2011 at 12:10 pm | | Report comment
Oral sex happened some years ago right after the Monica Lewinsky “incident” when the then-president Bill Clinton denied that oral-genital contact was actually sex.
January 21, 2011 at 12:04 pm | | Report comment
omg i have a 7 year 2nd grader ..this is appauling to me….u have to 1st teach at home about abstonense….but this teacher who knows if this wasn’t a act the teacher encouraged …what right does a teacher have to allow students to be undressed the week before this occured? simply this had to be encourraged by the teacher for it to have happened in the class while present common sense will tell u this…teacher should have been fired and not allowed to teach ever again ..the students should be put into counseling…truely this should not have ever occured !!!!!u have to start from home teaching ur children morals what is right and what is wrong…children are very courious this is true …and from the added pressure of the teacher possibly encouraging this looking up to them as a TEACHER and an authority figure thinking this is ok? WRONG still not ok … heck i freak out when mine comes home cursing i would loose my mind if this teacher , would have been his teacher…teacher u are sick and need help kids/and parents of kids get therapy …..
January 21, 2011 at 12:05 pm | | Report comment
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This is a long term symptom of the decadence of Liberal policies that spawn irresponsible parents, liberal teachers, and administrators who beleive young children need to be informed and exposed to different sexual lifestyles. A teacher needs to be prosecuted, a parent, or maybe a administrator or 2. Libs do it saying its what’s best for the children, but you are actually depriving them of their future. These kids will never be able to understand true intimatcy, its being robbed from them , so the Calif liberals can indoctinate them. How can anyone be surprised at this. It was destined to happen. Isn’t this what Obama’s gay Educational Director wants? Is there anything in Calif that has not been FUBAR!!!
January 21, 2011 at 12:07 pm | | Report comment
WHAT!! how did these kids learn to do sex acts?? at home? How many kids are in her class that she didn’t see what was going on. Has anyone talked to the parents? HOW DO KIDS KNOW TO DO THIS?
January 21, 2011 at 12:09 pm | | Report comment
Honestly, are you really that clueless? Human beings are driven to have sex. If you don’t think that even 6 year old boys get erections and have sexual desires, then you are ignorant. Kids figure things out a variety of different ways, from finding books and magazines to simple experimentation.
Even young boys get erections and feel physically attracted towards young girls. How hard do you think it would be for them to figure out that it might feel good if they touch each other? We’re talking about some of our strongest biological drives and you can’t understand how someone might figure it out?
Some parents are also able to explain sex to their children when their kids ask, “Where do babies come from?” Not every parent is silly enough to think that educating kids about sex is the same thing as encouraging them to have sex.
January 21, 2011 at 2:36 pm | | Report comment
The most surprizing thing about this is that it was between a boy and a girl….Amazing ….Anyone dare to guess at the race involved here ??
January 21, 2011 at 12:13 pm | | Report comment
Just copying what they see Mommy doing with her boyfriends. It’s only natural to want to be like Mommy. After school they go pick up their welfare check just like Mommy.
January 21, 2011 at 12:30 pm | | Report comment
What do you expect from a BLUE state?
January 21, 2011 at 12:13 pm | | Report comment
debauchery in the classroom???? say it ain’t so.. they are only copying what they have themselves witnessed, be it on tv or in person.
you want stories like this to disappear? how a bout a little self control in both what you allow your children to watch and oversee….
it used to be that sex was private, but now it is essentially a party favor. if you want the party favor treatment, don’t express shock and outrage about the effects when kids witness it.
January 21, 2011 at 12:19 pm | | Report comment
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Oakland? What a shock! And we will be sharing the wealth with these miscreants for the rest of their lives, and their childern, and their….
January 21, 2011 at 12:27 pm | | Report comment
damn that sarah palin, george bush, and right wing talk radio.
January 21, 2011 at 12:28 pm | | Report comment
Its oakland the place is full of animals
we know that animals breed fast and young!
Calif is the land of fruits and nuts and they are in charge of out of control little monkeyes….This doesnt suprise me!
What we need is forced sterilization…you need to have at the very least an IQ of 90 to breed otherwise we the next thing you know our country will be over run by monkeys…hell we could even end up with one as a president or something!
January 21, 2011 at 12:30 pm | | Report comment
I don’t see anything wrong with children playing doctor exploring their bodiy. You are all making such a big deal out of this when children can be married at age 5 or 6 in Islamic country. You Zionists need to learn this is not just YOUR culture
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January 21, 2011 at 12:31 pm | | Report comment
David from NYC said: “The problem is this country is that we are so repressed, we so demonize sex, that we’re so ashamed of our naked bodies that our natural urges come out in all kinds of perverted ways.”
Dave, you ignorant moron. Not surprising to see you hail from NYC, which is the east coast version of San Francisco values. Anything should go, right dave? So you and your generation can satisfy all your sexual fantasies without the ‘uptight’ people interfering? We now have unprecedented levels of sexually transmitted diseases, abortions, and AIDS, which is costing the country billions of dollars to deal with. Your uninhibited pleasures aren’t free dave. I realize ‘paying’ for things does not even register with you though as you are no doubt a typical NY liberal who thinks we should all just have fun, and Obama should be able to get all of your ilk free healthcare so you can get all the latest treatments for your self-indulglences. You little puke.
January 21, 2011 at 12:31 pm | | Report comment
I think it’s hot!
January 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm | | Report comment
To David in NYC. I would think and I hope you were joking as sex acts between second graders is not repression but insane . Anyone who would condone such a thing and being San Francisco Bay Area should be considered a bit off of their trolly tracks and be taken out of service anyway possible. I’m not a prude but we have lost our way as to what is permissible for our young people and what is not. I know most young people by an early age is aware and wondering about sex and it should be taught starting in middle school in a responsible manner. We do not need to expose them to shows that show sex between them at such a early age or have teachers who actually encourage and watch such such things. We really have lost God and our morals.
January 21, 2011 at 12:38 pm | | Report comment
Female teachers have more sex with children than Catholic priests.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39783
The Teacher’s Union will protect her, but not from our children. LOL
January 21, 2011 at 12:43 pm | | Report comment
What state was this in again? Oh, California? Well there you go.
January 21, 2011 at 12:43 pm | | Report comment
Oakland second graders? Big deal, it’s likely they’re over eighteen years old.
January 21, 2011 at 12:44 pm | | Report comment
They were second graders numb nuts!!!!!
January 21, 2011 at 12:44 pm | | Report comment
Isn’t the Progressive Movement grand!
I can’t wait for American “culture” to progress some more.
January 21, 2011 at 12:45 pm | | Report comment
If this guy is really guilty of forcing those kids into acting like that in a public school class room, may I suggest the Singapore cain stick beating in public as a reward for this stupidity…..apparently the PS sytsem needs a major ovehaul if that’s all the better they can do for teachers.
January 21, 2011 at 12:47 pm | | Report comment
Something like this incident with the children happened in New Jersey about 20 years ago, so it’s not a problem of just one location. If people get away with this, it will be taken as a green-light by our culture in general and we will get more of the same. Do we really want THAT? Do you want this happening in YOUR school?
If not- something needs to be done NOW.
January 21, 2011 at 12:47 pm | | Report comment
USA students are #1 in sex education, but last in the world in math, science and reading.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-07/teens-in-u-s-rank-25th-on-math-test-trail-in-science-reading.html
January 21, 2011 at 12:48 pm | | Report comment
The teacher should be prosecuted. The principal should be fired.
January 21, 2011 at 12:53 pm | | Report comment
I prefer that children learn about sex from a qualified teacher compared to learning in the street. I hope the teacher was passing out condoms.
Obama in 2012
January 21, 2011 at 12:54 pm | | Report comment
“He” has not be let back on campus and if charges pan out is certainly a “fireable offense”. HOW ‘BOUT THE FACT THAT HE’S A SEXUAL DEVIANT? Will he then be charged as a sex offender?
January 21, 2011 at 12:55 pm | | Report comment
I’m so glad the government had the good sense to kick God out of schools. Lucky for us.
Obama/Biden 2012
January 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm | | Report comment
Any placements remaining for that class?
January 21, 2011 at 1:01 pm | | Report comment
Why are there only law suits when it concerns the church. I want to know this teachers name. She was ONLY suspended? She should be in jail. Can we sue the public schools out of existance. where’s SNAP those money grabbers.
January 21, 2011 at 1:02 pm | | Report comment
What grades did the children get?
January 21, 2011 at 1:03 pm | | Report comment
Press conference after press conference… our children are are so obese it is a threat to national security…. ban salt….ban sugar…ban McDonalds…
…..but 2nd graders having sex in class… crickets chirping.
January 21, 2011 at 1:03 pm | | Report comment
Hey, w’re also talking the Bay Area, probably the worst place on the planet to raise a kid with anything resembling morality and traditional values. Offered the chance to move there I refused, terrible place to raise children, even with the best efforts of parents. Ever try to explain a “gay” pride parade? More like a pervert parade…. I’m just sayin…..
January 21, 2011 at 1:05 pm | | Report comment
When conservative white men were in charge of running elementary schools, the biggest complaint was teachers slapping students on the hands with a ruler. We have progressed.
January 21, 2011 at 1:06 pm | | Report comment
Teacher is disciplined….ok. Now let’s discipline the parents for not having better values and decision making in their kids. Certainly second grade kids know better. I was terrified to throw a piece of paper b/c of the consequences I would face at home, how have we come to this point?
January 21, 2011 at 1:10 pm | | Report comment
$10 bucks says that the teacher is a single mom, and over 50% of the children live with single moms.
January 21, 2011 at 1:10 pm | | Report comment
How about 100%/
January 21, 2011 at 2:01 pm | | Report comment
Where do they learn it ? BET video’s and RAP music no doubt mommy (no daddy) listens to that s**t
January 21, 2011 at 1:10 pm | | Report comment
CALL CHRIS HANSEN!
January 21, 2011 at 1:13 pm | | Report comment
You are KIDDING, RIGHT
January 21, 2011 at 1:13 pm | | Report comment
Most all female teachers do not see jail time for being pedophiles. Women know they do not do jail time, so they’ll continue to do what they want.
January 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm | | Report comment
. I was abused, it made me turn to drugs and alcohol. Now I am sober and take it one day at a time, Keep one keepin on. Never again, my hebrew brothers
January 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm | | Report comment
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You can’t blame MTV, internet porn, or media in this case. The TEACHER is the only one to blame. He is obviously a pervert that get his kicks from children. I would imagine that as soon as this story hit the press, Mr. Teacher went home to destroy hard drives and photos of child-porn.
My point is that some people are ‘wired’ wrong. Some people are sick. Perverts like this CANNOT be rehabilitated. When children are told by a figure of authority to do something, they are more likely to listen (as opposed to the students engaging in these actions without being told to do so).
The bottom line is that this has nothing to do with politics, race, religion, social status, etc… This has to do with a sick man that took advantage of children and abused his authority as a teacher to force children into doing something that would get him off.
January 21, 2011 at 1:18 pm | | Report comment
They ought to start putting cameras in classrooms with a feed to Sex Offender Unit at the Police Department
January 21, 2011 at 1:18 pm | | Report comment
1) will this teacher be protected by the union.
2) will this teacher be fired
3) is this normal curriculum
4) joselyn elders would be proud
5) California san Francisco – hmm
6) this comes from being repressed – what a dope!
7) would love to hear the teachers justification
January 21, 2011 at 1:20 pm | | Report comment
ILLUMINATI!!!
January 21, 2011 at 1:29 pm | | Report comment
Shocking The teacher should be brought up on charges of sexual abuse on children. Every child that was exposed to the sex act and getting naked has been abused. Some may never recover some may grow to be deviants.
I have no idea how anyone can think a 2nd grader would what oral sex is let alone know how to perform the act without say the pervert teacher showing them or directing them.
It is important for the United States to understand that our children are in grave danger and for the safety of our countries future we need to protect our future, our children. Mothers or Fathers who want to be full time stay at home parents should be paid to do so and given health benefits.
I don’t mean lazy people who want stay home to drink and drug it up but I mean real parents who take their children to school and pick them up. Volunteer 2 days a week to work at the school in some capacity. Who take the kids to after school events and practice. Parents who want to see all children do better on a scholastic level and be in a safe environment.
If our children had a parent in the home when they go and return from school I do believe perverts would have a more difficult time perverting and corrupting their young influential minds.
Cameras need to be installed in classrooms and parents can chip in to afford the cost. No it isn’t expensive. You can get a 4 camera set up that records for under $400.00 divide that up 30-35 ways and it becomes more than just affordable. It’s very do able. Not only can you see what the teacher is doing and not doing but your children will have to behave themselves because now they know Mommy and Daddy seriously have their eye on them.
Please don’t say what about the children’s rights; children have the right to be safe and in our current state of affairs that means keepeing our eye on them when we allow people we don’t know who have habits that we are not aware of are spending in some cases more time influencing our children then the we the parents are.
I’m just saying
January 21, 2011 at 1:37 pm | | Report comment
“Cameras need to be installed in classrooms”
The last thing I’d want is for my kids to be under constant surveillance while in the classroom. People, including children, should still be able to expect privacy sometimes and be able to make choices in privacy.
“I have no idea how anyone can think a 2nd grader would what oral sex is let alone know how to perform the act without say the pervert teacher showing them or directing them.”
Then you’re clueless. I figured it out by age six just by experimenting with two neighbor girls. Also, if my friends had older siblings, then they would find out about sex in different ways and there are many possibilities. To suggest that the only explanation is that the teacher demonstrated is absurd. Get a clue. Some kids stumble across porn (I found porn magazines in a park as a child), others find “Joy of Sex” books in their homes or find info about sex in a library or online.
And if you don’t think that a kid could figure out oral sex, then you seriously underestimate the intelligence of children and the strength of our biological drive for sex. I had sexual fantasies from at least 6 years old and that’s pretty normal. It wasn’t hard to figure out that I might want the neighbor girl to kiss my genitals.
January 21, 2011 at 2:31 pm | | Report comment
You know, I really wish that all the folks that believe sexual perversion is an outcome from poor sex ed and puritan insecurity. However, the truth is that sexual perversion is simply in direct proportion with the society’s values. Europeans are much more open than us about nudity and sexuality and lead the world in use of hard-core porn. The saddest part of this story is that when kids treat sex acts as casually as hugs they grow up to be unable to enjoy healthy, intimate, trusting, satisfying sexual relationships as adults.
January 21, 2011 at 1:42 pm | | Report comment
“The saddest part of this story is that when kids treat sex acts as casually as hugs they grow up to be unable to enjoy healthy, intimate, trusting, satisfying sexual relationships as adults.”
I have little doubt that you don’t have a shred of evidence to show that what you’re saying is true. Sexual experimentation is quite normal for children. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s abnormal.
I wouldn’t characterize what these kids did as “sexual perversion.” That’s ludicrous. I don’t see what harm there is in educating children about sex. Education does not encourage them to try things, it just helps them make informed decisions. If you are afraid of your kids being educated, then you are a bad, immoral parent, because you want your kids to be ignorant.
January 21, 2011 at 2:23 pm | | Report comment
“Sexual experimentation is quite normal for children. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s abnormal.
I wouldn’t characterize what these kids did as ‘sexual perversion.’ ”
I agree. Sexual experimentation among children is universal; it is a common characteristic of children in all places and in all times. This incident could even be characterized as _especially_ normal for children, as children are naturally oral, as well as sexual.
Does anyone these days really think that oral sex is not a healthy expression of (at least “adult”) sexuality? Once the people here who have allowed their ageist and sexual prejudices to govern their thinking have admitted to themselves that kids are sexual creatures with their own desires and needs, which include the need for real information about the -sometimes overwhelming- feelings of which their bodies are capable, they will be more understanding of these poor kids. Who has not been curious at a young age? -And was either the glamour of the forbidden cast over sex, or was shame inculcated into them? -How much better if their parents and the adults who were supposed to provide them with the information -both logical and emotional- upon which to make informed and rational decisions had given guidance rather than condemnation or the allure of the forbidden, the “adult” and the “dirty”? The polarization of opinion all too often seen in this country is responsible for much misery. It seems that people either are fixated upon sex or reject it out of hand; but does not the path of fulfillment and of healthy sexual relationships lie between these two extremes?
Moreover, if kids do not get the respect and consideration which they deserve, they are bound to follow an unhealthy path, as these kids have done. -Not the act itself, which is natural and could have been an enjoyable and playful, if not beautiful and loving, experience for them both… if not done in a completely (in our culture) inappropriate place, and in an atmosphere which I can only imagine as emotionally unhealthy, salacious and/or condemnatory.
Who knows just why these kids felt it necessary to act out this way in the classroom? -I think that our society’s fixation upon sex on the one hand, and its repression on the other, are at least partly responsible, causing an unnatural fascination with sex, juxtaposed with the bottling-up of these kids’ -quite natural- feelings and curiosity, which found an outlet in an unhealthy expression, when the opportunity presented itself.
We hide sex behind a curtain either way, and pretend that kids cannot understand, or even _have_, their own feelings… and we are surprised when kids are so extreme in their sex-play? It is a reflection of our own unhealthy attitudes about, and behaviors surrounding, sex. -Which is not surprising, as kids are people, too. They are a part of the culture, however much the culture oppresses them and denies them the right to participate, or even be represented.
Ignoring and condemning kids for their natural feelings, refusing them the right to the control of their own bodies, and keeping them ignorant so they cannot make their own informed decisions are all forms of the same prejudice; these are expressions of ageism, which is certainly one of the most pervasive and unfair of all prejudices. Ageism and the concomitant denial of our children’s simple human rights and dignity as human beings is an offense to any self-determined and rational child. It is another form of this ugliest of prejudices to see children as the chattel of their parents, of the state, of the schools. They are unique and special human beings all, and should be afforded the dignity and the opportunity for self-determination which compassion for our fellow human beings should tell us is only right and proper.
January 25, 2011 at 1:09 pm
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tell us again how great teacher’s unions are.
January 21, 2011 at 1:44 pm | | Report comment
My 14 year old great granddaughter is being taught that sex is OK at any age if you use protection. But it is even better if you practice oral sex as it can’t transmit STD’s and prevents pregnancy. And what is really scary is she had no qualms discussing it with us.
Parents wake up. The liberal teaching is going on everywhere. Obama has even gone on record for Sex Ed beginning in Kindergarten.
January 21, 2011 at 1:44 pm | | Report comment
The cynicism and lack of moral outrage on display here in comments is incredible. As an abused child, there is NO EXCUSE tor stealing a child’s innocence. That people can joke and imply children are sexual at age 7 and “in control” is an opinion that speaks to the hedinistic harsh callousness usually found in someone who pulls the wings of butterflies and tortures family pets. Hedonism is rotting the godness of our society at its core.
January 21, 2011 at 1:48 pm | | Report comment
Who stole the child’s innocence? You are talking about a sex act performed by two 2nd graders on each other.
It is better to teach kids about sex than to let them remain ignorant. I didn’t have to be taught about sex to figure out that I wanted it before I was 10 years old. What’s wrong with education? You want your kids to remain ignorant?
January 21, 2011 at 2:19 pm | | Report comment
“especially for 7 year olds, and sex is not and never will be proper for casual encounters and experimentation at that age.”
Please tell me why you are the one who gets to decide whether or not sexual experimentation is appropriate at that age. In the medieval period, it was normal for people to get married as young as 14. Some natives in the Southern Pacific teach their young teens different sexual positions.
For those who are blaming “liberals” or “conservatives” for the problem, then you are clueless. This has nothing at all to do with MTV. Sex is a central part of human life and even kids figure it out. We are biologically driven for sex.
January 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm | | Report comment
You can blame who ever and whatever you want for the way kids act today but in the end they are all excuses. I am a single father of three and my kids know what is acceptable and what is not. They also know what I expect of them and they know what to expect from me. So keep making excuses while some of us actually are raising our kids to be decent humans….
January 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm | | Report comment
You’re arrogant and you’re assuming that your kids don’t behave in ways you don’t want them to. As far as you know, your kids might be having sex without your knowledge. Just because you teach your kids “right vs wrong” doesn’t mean that they’re necessarily going to listen to you.
Your attempt to blame parents for not trying just fails.
Most parents don’t talk to kids as young as 7 or 8 because they mistakenly assume that children that young are inherently asexual.
Your kids “know” what is acceptable and what isn’t? That’s an assumption and it’s just as much an assumption to think that their behaviour is always in line with the moral code you taught them. Kids can be pretty good liars. How do you know that they don’t sneak drinks, smoke pot or have sex? Magic?
January 21, 2011 at 2:10 pm | | Report comment
It’s what you would expact out of Ca. Liberals with thier no fault divorce and other ideas with no morals, I’m mean look, what state did Nancy come from again?
January 21, 2011 at 1:57 pm | | Report comment
So kids, what’d ya do in school today?
Nothin dad, just the usual reading writing, show and tell…today they showed us how to perform oral sex on each other and bobby and kathy volunteered to demonstrate.
Allright, kids. Let’s get started on that homework….wait a minute, did you say, oh never mind…
January 21, 2011 at 1:57 pm | | Report comment
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I wonder how much of a problem 2nd graders engaging in oral sex in school was a problem back before the liberals took over and destroyed the family.
January 21, 2011 at 2:02 pm | | Report comment
It baffles me that so many Americans can only see in black and white. Everything is somehow a “liberal” or “conservative” issue. The world is more complicated than that. Not everything is related to the Dems or the GOP.
America is just nuts. All up in arms about what is relativelly normal sexual experimentation – mutual sexual play between two prepubescent children, but half of those blaming “liberals” would probably be more happy to hear that their kids were taking guns to school.
And to those who say that blacks are to blame because this is just what they do… wow. Humans are hard-wired for sex. If you don’t think kids can figure it out by experimenting then you are stupid.
January 21, 2011 at 2:53 pm | | Report comment
Actually Oakland and the college at Berkley a few miles apart, both are proud to announce that they are liberal institutions and proud of it. And of course they are just across the Bay where liberalism is flaunted, and advertised in every way.
Gay Pride parades, Nude Bike derbies and so on. We lived there and there were times I would not let my kids go out, or look out the windows. Have you ever been exposed to a mile long parade of nude people on Bicycles painted in bizarre colors riding past your building??.
January 21, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Apparently, Andrew G thinks we are all animals–and that there is no such thing as morality.
Well, he’s half-right. In his universe, there probably isn’t.
I happen to believe, though, that just because a thought/impulse enters your head, does NOT mean one has to act upon it/give in to it.
ANdrew, you and your ilk do us all a favor: Those of you who believe “we just can’t help it” and that 2nd-graders having sex in a classroom is no big deal…move somewhere. Far away. Build a VERY big wall around your compound. We’ll listen closely. And when you–since you’re just animals, after all, with no sense of right and wrong–manage to kill and eat each other (or all of you die of a multitude of STD’s)–we’ll reclaim the land, and go back to civilized society.
I do have one sincere prayer: That Andrew never–EVER–enters the field of education. Having a sympathizer of a child abuser in the classroom is just about as bad as having the abuser there!
January 21, 2011 at 6:17 pm
We are not -obviously- getting the full story here. Did the teacher orchestrate it? -Was she encouraging them? -Was she simply unable to “control” the kids? -We don’t know, and unfortunately we will probably never get to hear the true and full story, due to the unpalatable nature of the events.
Everyone jumps on someone – the parents, the teacher, the kids themselves, even Obama (!)… but the reality of children and childhood is that kids have sexual feelings and desires, and only a sick and repressive society will deny it. I was masturbating at 4, no one had to show me how, and I had (enthusiastic) sex with other kids at 5. Big deal! -What is wrong with that? It wasn’t the sex itself that was harmful to me, it was the secrets I was forced to keep and the negative way it was viewed which was so bad for me.
I do think that it is a sign of faulty socialization -in our society- for the kids to do it openly and in a classroom, though. However, it is, IMO, a sign of a sick society that such furor is made over kids being kids. Sure the teacher should have gently told them that it was not appropriate to have sex in a classroom, and to keep it at home where it belongs. But kids are human beings and have sexual feelings and experiences. It is a natural part of their lives… as any parent reasonably in touch with their kids can tell you.
January 24, 2011 at 10:19 pm
It would appear that these 2nd graders are sharing what they learned outside of school at school. Instead of apologizing about the kids that did it I think it would be wise to learn how they learned to do it. It does give an entirely new meaning to show and tell.
January 21, 2011 at 2:11 pm | | Report comment
Two Words: PUBLIC SCHOOL!!! Need anyone say anything more?
January 21, 2011 at 2:12 pm | | Report comment
Now kids, here’s your math lesson…One plus one equals…three.
January 21, 2011 at 2:12 pm | | Report comment
I’ll wager money most of these “kids” don’t have a father at home.
January 21, 2011 at 2:15 pm | | Report comment
Sounds like most of these kids were fathered by second-graders:
“Yo, check ‘dis out…I be goin’ to my granddaddy’s high-school graduation. he be 19 dis year.”
January 21, 2011 at 6:24 pm | | Report comment
Relax. Oakland is 90% black. It’s just blacks doing what they have been doing for centuries
January 21, 2011 at 2:22 pm | | Report comment
It’s all Bush and Sarah Palin’s fault.
January 21, 2011 at 2:24 pm | | Report comment
She’ll be found guilty of indecency, not pedophile charges, and the judge will suspend her sentence. She’ll sign a book deal and be on Oprah to share how her husband/boyfriend/father beat/raped/abused her.
January 21, 2011 at 2:24 pm | | Report comment
Presumed guilty by the ignorant public.
January 21, 2011 at 2:56 pm | | Report comment
….and celebrated by NAMBLA charter member Andrew G.
January 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm
I bet the teacher is a single mom, and most the kids live with a single mom.
January 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm | | Report comment
Normal breeding habits of the species…..
I wish the high IQ were populating more
January 21, 2011 at 2:30 pm | | Report comment
Second grade in Oakland Schools means they were both nineteen years old.
January 21, 2011 at 2:35 pm | | Report comment
shocking………..really
January 21, 2011 at 3:27 pm | | Report comment
If kids are going to be having or performing sex at that age…I hope they at least wear a condom and mouth dam.
January 21, 2011 at 2:38 pm | | Report comment
Ever wonder what the face of Evil looks like? It looks like the face of the Oakland 2nd grade teacher who orchestrated this, and the members of this forum who applaud what happened here. God save us.
January 21, 2011 at 2:39 pm | | Report comment
Please provide evidence that the teacher “orchestrated” this.
You are making things up.
January 21, 2011 at 2:49 pm | | Report comment
Everyone wants to play the blame game. This pornography thing has become the witchhunt of modern times. All that it would take in a class of young, very young children like that would be some kid with a stronger personality who has seen their older brothers, sisters, mothers or fathers having oral sex would be to strongly suggest or urge the others to do that. Kids are like putty at those ages and are open to suggestion no matter what it is. The parents are definitely at fault, the teacher shoulders some of the blame although she was probably on her computer trying to put together her lesson plans for the next quarter. Children are curious about nudity and their private parts at an early age but its up to the parents to quell that curiosity and answer those questions so that others don’t take advantage of them.
January 21, 2011 at 2:44 pm | | Report comment
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One thing is for sure… God didn’t allow this. He’s not allowed at school anymore.
January 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm | | Report comment
EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, BUT NONE OF YOU WILL TAKE A STAND AND CHANGE IT. ITS NOT JUST MTV LOOK AT TEEN MAGZINE, COSMOPOLITION, CABLE TV, REGULAR TV, LISTEN TO THE MUSIC, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. THE LIST IS ENDLESS. START DOING THE RIGHT THING IT WONT BE LONG BEFORE WE ARE LOST.
January 21, 2011 at 3:07 pm | | Report comment
all right! a teacher’s union member in action.
January 21, 2011 at 3:10 pm | | Report comment
My guess is the San Francisco City Council — with concurring nods from its counterpart in Berkeley — will vote to have the teacher removed for not making sure that condoms were available for the youngsters. Safe sex is important!
January 21, 2011 at 3:10 pm | | Report comment
Nobody Mentions Sexual Child Abuse! why not?? Children DON’T know about these things…until someone shows them (abuse by other children or adults), or does it to them! Sexually Abused Children often act out by ABUSING OTHER CHILDREN, So now, as a culture, we are accepting as ‘normal’ sexual child abuse because…..EVERYBODY Is DOING IT. This has nothing to do with ‘repressed sexuality’, everything to do with selfish adults who do the opposite of protecting our children.
January 21, 2011 at 3:11 pm | | Report comment
Nobody Mentions Sexual Child Abuse! why not?? Children DON’T know about these things…until someone shows them (abuse by other children or adults), or does it to them! Sexually Abused Children often act out by ABUSING OTHER CHILDREN, So now, as a culture, we are accepting as ‘normal’ sexual child abuse because…..EVERYBODY Is DOING IT. This has nothing to do with ‘repressed sexuality’, everything to do with selfish adults who do the opposite of protecting our children, and being stimulated sexually ‘before their time’ is most definitely abuse.
January 21, 2011 at 3:13 pm | | Report comment
“Of course, it is hard to understand how that could have occurred”
Was the teacher Gay?
January 21, 2011 at 3:13 pm | | Report comment
The only people surprised by this are residents of the greater San Francisco area.
The rest of the nation is essentially thinking… “Well Duh!”
January 21, 2011 at 3:19 pm | | Report comment
For all you people blaming tv, music, and parents…. I have a neighboor who homeschooled all of their children, very Christian, very sheltered, and what did there 16 year old girl do with the 17 year old boy at church??? You guessed it, SEX. Let me see, she was extremely limited to everything she listened to, watched, very Godly people, very sheltered, Bible studies around the clock for 16 years. Stop blaming! You can lock your kids up, but it doesn’t change their bodies and desires you morons. I was told my whole life growing up, “don’t do drugs”, what did I do when I got out of the house, drugs. I don’t have any answers, but the damn tv isn’t to blame.
January 21, 2011 at 3:23 pm | | Report comment
16 and 17 year old are one thing, we as a species are genetically programmed to reproduce at even a slightly younger age, a thousand years age you would have been well on your way to middle age at 17. but 2nd graders? this is definitely some thing else, was the teacher watching ,perhaps filming, sounds like maybe the production or promotion of kiddy porn to me
January 21, 2011 at 4:31 pm | | Report comment
is this not in the school curriculum……
January 21, 2011 at 3:23 pm | | Report comment
I’d like to know exactly what they mean by “suspended indefinitely” Keith Olbermann was suspended indefinitely and he was back on the job within a couple of days. Will this teacher still draw a salary?????
January 21, 2011 at 3:26 pm | | Report comment
I’m sure the parents of these children are just wonderful, they certainly don’t deserve any blame….yeah sure.
January 21, 2011 at 3:29 pm | | Report comment
This is a criminal act by the teacher…is the district attorney involved??? Suspended!!!??….why isn’t it Fired and handed over to the law. This isn’t a Union issue, and why aren’t we viewing the mug shot??!! Are we as a society so jaded now??
January 21, 2011 at 3:30 pm | | Report comment
I got a feeling that the DA will be in this sooner or later.
January 21, 2011 at 3:49 pm | | Report comment
That’s the only card they have, Bobfromct.
If this whole story is indeed true, many heads should roll. The teacher must be off balance in a serious way. Who, for one five seconds, would not think enough to know that kids would go home and talk to their parents about this?
January 21, 2011 at 3:35 pm | | Report comment
Oh please! The kids were probably taught by their parents so they can start pumping out kids as soon as possible when their bodies are developed enough. That way, they can file for welfare and lookforward to voting Democrat.
January 21, 2011 at 3:44 pm | | Report comment
They were probably just trying out what they had been shown/taught in their sex ed class Yep. Kids being taught how it OK to have an “alternative” life styles and how to perform “safe” sex.Yep. Some people just don’t really know what their children are being taught now days.Maybe they don’t want to know… That way they can later say; Iit is hard to understand how that could have occurred.
January 21, 2011 at 3:56 pm | | Report comment
Correction– the roman empire spanned 1000 years–not 200 as posted.
January 21, 2011 at 3:59 pm | | Report comment
What happened to Chloe? Did she actually go to work, or did she fall asleep at the keyboard?
January 21, 2011 at 4:00 pm | | Report comment
An Oakland school? Must be one of the ones that Moonbeam Jerry Brown ran.
January 21, 2011 at 4:10 pm | | Report comment
Sounds like a liberal class assignment, just another part of Arnie’s new plan to corrupt the American education system. The blood is on Obama and Arnie’s hands for this as parents are no no responsible, the nanny government is.
January 21, 2011 at 4:13 pm | | Report comment
It would not surprise me if this teacher? didn’t receive the teacher of the year award from the Bay Area teachers association. The only thing that might hinder the award would be that it wasn’t two children of the same sex. But with gay sex ed being force on even younger children here every year there is always next time
January 21, 2011 at 4:18 pm | | Report comment
Where are we getting out teachers? What is being taught in our ‘colleges of education’? There seems to be a growing trend of sexual deviance on the part of those entrusted to teach our kids! What type of psychological screening is accomplished on teacher applicants prior to contracting their services?
This is pretty sad, and strongly suggests home schooling, or different delivery methods!
January 21, 2011 at 4:20 pm | | Report comment
You need to remember that this occurred in the Bay Area where “diversity” is encouraged all most to point of being required. the more diverse you are from mainstream morality the better, they probably add 25 points to teachers exams if you swish to the left. the less morals you have or show the more likely to be hired and fit in with their agenda.Which is the complete destruction of the American family and it’s make up since the beginning of time…see the change from mother and father to parent #1 and parent #2 as an example.
January 21, 2011 at 4:42 pm | | Report comment
you are one mad redneck
social diversity allows people to differenciate from one another, it does not destroy ”the American Family”
so not only are you sexist, you are republican and probably in favor of the Iraq war
because they DEFINITELY were building nuclear bombs
oh and Bush totally didn’t just try to colonize it to get rich???
i come from a place where people like you get locked up
i cannot believe you can say such things with a straight face
Diversity is the future in a society where everyone is taught to stay in the mainstream
i quote Kurt Cobain: ”You laugh at me because I’m different…. But I laugh at you because you’re all the same…”
January 21, 2011 at 4:56 pm
We should all be thankful that at least they weren’t saying prayers in the classroom!
You reap what you sow California, keep up the liberal agenda.
January 21, 2011 at 4:26 pm | | Report comment
OK, i don’t know what scares me most, this story? Or reading the post by ” San Fran”, citizens. Some of you people care, and are as appalled as the rest of us in America. But from some of these post, i don’t know how to respond. But i will put it this way, is California the final stop for all of the Godless in America? Yes i am a Christian, not what i would call an ” Uber” Christian, i am very open to things. I have both a gay daughter and a gay step-son. But the attitude for some of you so called ” enlightened” people is just wrong. Search your souls, unless you don’t think you have one. Remember, you may not believe in God, but you will see him in the end, we all will.
January 21, 2011 at 4:33 pm | | Report comment
“I have no idea how 2nd graders would know about oral sex. ”
The fourth graders tell them.
January 21, 2011 at 4:36 pm | | Report comment
I am willing to bet (as an experienced labor lawyer) that the most shocking thing about this story is that the suspension is WITH PAY!
January 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm | | Report comment
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IF the teacher was present, and allowed this to go on, there are two acceptable options:
1. Sterilize them. No anesthesia.
2. Life imprisonment (in general population). And tell the other inmates what they are.
“What” is more accurate than “who.” These creatures don’t deserve human rights.
January 21, 2011 at 4:51 pm | | Report comment
How ridiculous of Drudge Report to link this to MTV. They’re in Second Grade. I’m sure the teacher put them up to it.
January 21, 2011 at 4:52 pm | | Report comment
clinton was the first black president and he be down with it.
January 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm | | Report comment
What do you expect…they are all black correct? These animals have no moral compass
January 21, 2011 at 4:58 pm | | Report comment
With tax payer dollars going for this filth, perhaps it is PAST TIME TO ALLOW California to GO BANKRUPT! Can you imagine the outrage if the state asks for a bailout??
January 21, 2011 at 5:00 pm | | Report comment
Sodom and Gomorrah, coming soon to a city, and continent, near you…….
Unbelievable….give it 2 weeks and this will be written off like evrything else moral slipping through our fingers.
January 21, 2011 at 5:01 pm | | Report comment
they are learning something teacher said
January 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm | | Report comment
that’s all black in oakland
January 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm | | Report comment
SOCIALIST ANACHIST —GET OVER GEORGE BUSH. JUST BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS TOOK YOU DEMS OUT OF THE HOUSE, YOU WANT TO BLAME THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT EVER HAPPENED..I’M SURE IF WE HAD A LARGE EARTHQUAKE HERE IN THE US, IT WOULD BE GEO. BUSH’S FAULT TO YOU. THAT IS HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE. THE LIBS ARE A LOT TO BLAME FOR THIS TYPE OF SEXUAL BEHAVIOR. THEY HAVE NO MORALS..
January 21, 2011 at 5:23 pm | | Report comment
I think that the problem here is children deciding to explore sexuality due to a lack of guidence from the parents. People are intrigued by what they don’t know and will try to explore it.
January 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm | | Report comment
to the poster saying sex is good, and that we all came from a vagina, i couldn’t agree more. main difference however, is that my mother opened her vagina to my father after they were both college-educated, financially-stable, and married. then they went at it fo 45 years and could afford the 4 children they raised and educated to be net contributers to society.
lest anyone forget, actions have consequences.
teenage pregnancy, by and large, continues the cycle of under education, impoverishment, drain on communal resources, reduced contribution to society. same for drug use or any kind of abusive behaviour.
each of us pay more in the present to cover these mistakes in the form of many social programs that would not be necessary if these kids just kept their legs together.
later, after we have payed more of our resources out in the present, and saved less for the future, we will get hit again as these under-educated, under-employed, former teen mothers contribute less to social security payments.
it’s a downward-spiral folks. glamorise it, de-stigmatize it, and legitimize it, and on the back-end will only be impovrishment and tears.
the only reason, until now, there have been exceptional success stories out of such a situation is because subsidizing has been affordable, eventually there will be a tipping point where it will no longer be so.
January 21, 2011 at 5:35 pm | | Report comment
Teacher said to practice for their upcoming orals.
January 21, 2011 at 5:38 pm | | Report comment
What’s the problem? Kids don’t need to learn math, reading, writing, history, or science. What’s most important for them to learn in school is the proper way to put on a condom, right libs???
January 21, 2011 at 5:47 pm | | Report comment
Californacation. The whole state needs a good flush.
January 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm | | Report comment
They cite “a lack of supervision”? How preposterous. Supervision? What supervision? This teacher should be locked up in a cell with violent sex offenders for the rest of their lives…out of the general populace. Exactly what harm has been done to all the other children is immeasureable….and this is the school system our Government wants us to entrust our children? Sorry…an educational system like this has nowhere to go but down the sewer where it belongs!
January 21, 2011 at 6:04 pm | | Report comment
Two 7 yr olds playing show-me-yours is a pretty natural thing to happen. At that age kids are driven by curiosity, not sexuality. In almost any other country this would be no big deal. We allow a massive amount of violence in our media censor the natural and beautiful act of sex. Our focus is not where it needs to be. Having said that, the fact that it happened in a classroom is creepy and wrong.
January 21, 2011 at 6:04 pm | | Report comment
You call showing the same as ORAL?
man you must be a troll to be saying this. Nice one, trollie.
January 21, 2011 at 10:08 pm | | Report comment
Idiot children are unsupervised everywhere, just look at the little moron running around the white house, that boy needs corner time…2 years worth for the country’s sake.
January 21, 2011 at 6:18 pm | | Report comment
Usually sex acts by children this young is a sign of sexual abuse.
January 21, 2011 at 6:20 pm | | Report comment
True Bill. As a Children’s Social Worker, my experience, 25 years worth, has been that kids just do not come up with things like oral sex completely on their own. I would like to see stricter background checks on newly hired teachers as well, given that this teacher most likely had some propensities that may well have foretold something like this happening in his/her classroom…
January 21, 2011 at 7:48 pm | | Report comment
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You think this is abnormal? You will start seeing more and more and more of this. Just look up who Obama’s ‘Safe Schools Czar’, Kevin Jennings is. Google him. Google fistgate. You have pervs and sickos in charge of education…this is no shocker.
January 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm | | Report comment
Government schools…..what do you expect. People ask why we home school our boys….hahaha
January 21, 2011 at 6:47 pm | | Report comment
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Does anyone see a connection between us kicking God and prayer out of our schools and the lack of moral self control, school shootings, unbelievable numbers of drugged kids—whether legal or prescribed, increase in pregnant teens, our nation’s financial condition, the increased divorce rate, the increased corruption in government? (I’m from Palm Beach County. Is it five or six county commissioners in jail now?? I’ve lost count)
Everyone wants to be their own God now—accountable to no one.
God have mercy on this country. Forgive us. We are running it into the ground.
January 21, 2011 at 7:04 pm | | Report comment
100% agreement, Tim. However, God’s remedy for what ails this nation is foolishness to those that hate Him. There are people on this site that are actually condemning the country for its sexual “repression”, implicitly condoning what occurred in Oakland.
“As in the days of Noah….” We are there, my friend…
January 21, 2011 at 7:53 pm | | Report comment
flee fornication, for every sin that is committed is outside the body, but he commits fornication sins against his own body.
January 21, 2011 at 7:18 pm | | Report comment
The teacher was suspended??? Why wasn’t the teacher arrested? I can’t believe the comments on this page . This is not about sexual repression, this is sexual child abuse perpetrated by an adult.
How is a parent supposed to supervise their child in school? How is the parent responsible for what the teacher promotes in the classroom? I’m sure a seven year old didn’t come up with this curriculum. Parents aren’t allowed to sit in the classrooms all day long, although it looks like that is what is needed. Anyone that condones what happened has some serious sexual issues themselves. I sure don’t remember oral sex being on the SAT.
January 21, 2011 at 7:30 pm | | Report comment
Given the area where this incident occurred, the make-up of those that live in said area, the location of this news station, I guess it should not surprise me that a horrific story like this would bring out those who feel the need to bless us all with their “wisdom” regarding America’s need to do away with our “repressed” or “Puritanical” attitudes toward sex. They lecture us, implicitly condoning what happened, then throw in “Shame it happened in a classroom.” But it was otherwise okay?! Certain lifestyles, pornography and the like have cauterized the souls and twisted the minds of millions, and episodes like this result. Modern sexual practices and beliefs result in untold carnage in the minds and souls of our young people, at a HUGE co$t to society, yet those that could turn things around are so consumed with their own perversions that things will only get worse over time I’m afraid. Child-like, selfish, near-sighted adults have forsaken their responsibility to leave the world a better place for those generations that follow. This incident in Oakland will be repeated again and again, much to the delight of some in the Bay Area…
January 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm | | Report comment
Hey, our public education system is second to none. That’s right, our educational system comes in second place to no public education at all.
January 21, 2011 at 7:47 pm | | Report comment
When was the last time you stepped into a classroom for a friendly observation? Don’t pull the trigger until you know what you are aiming at. The task ahead for education is daunting, to say the least. But can we give it a llittle support, here? It is both easy and ignorant to put down something in which your own knowledge and experiences are very limited. Be careful! Bad comments made about your child’s teacher can be hazardous to their abilities to support you in your old age.
January 22, 2011 at 2:02 am | | Report comment
I stepped into a classroom just a few days ago and all was quiet and proper………BUT. I left the US in 2004, when you once again proved your inability to properly judge candidates running for office.
January 22, 2011 at 2:44 am
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yeah, our federal school system is just fine. there’s no need for school choice, compeition and vouchers….just move along people, nothing to see here. lol
January 21, 2011 at 7:53 pm | | Report comment
As a native Kalfornyan, it is the bay area and normal, gives the rest of the states a warning of what is coming, central valley and God help us.
January 21, 2011 at 8:03 pm | | Report comment
Cab I enroll in her class?
January 21, 2011 at 8:40 pm | | Report comment
I actually attended kindergarten at this elementary school 61 years ago. I remember being very careful when walking to and from school that year (There was no school busing, then..) not to step on a crack because I did not want to break my mother’s back. It was such an innocent time.
Times have changed, and it ain’t for the better.
January 21, 2011 at 8:55 pm | | Report comment
Ridiculously nasty! I know violence is never the answer, however! As a parent, this teacher needs IT whooped! I will never mover to Oakland, id be in jail for the first time! My babies would have never done that either, and would have left, if possible! Even IF the babies were subjected to it at home, school still isn’t another place where it should be so easy to find..2nd grade??? What a tacky place 2 live! I feel bad for the sane people who have to live there.
January 21, 2011 at 9:06 pm | | Report comment
No offense but you sound like you on welfare. Like the people probably in this Oakland school.
Honestly, it may not sound PC but I don’t put anything past poor people anymore and we all know who I am talking about. They are not working in regular jobs and too much drugs and booze are going on, way too much time on their hands, no morals.
January 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm | | Report comment
If 2nd graders are having sex in the class, what’s left to teach in sex ed when they get a little older?
January 21, 2011 at 9:31 pm | | Report comment
Theres your tax dollars.
January 21, 2011 at 9:41 pm | | Report comment
Oakland…..Pretty much says it all right there.
January 21, 2011 at 10:10 pm | | Report comment
You should check out RICHMOND, CA. ‘West Contra Costa Unified School District’ has serveral ‘Sexual Assualt’ cases against them, one of them is from me and my son. At the age of 6 1/2 yrs old he was sexually assulted by two of his peers who where 8 and 9 yrs old, repeatedly in several different bathrooms over a period of two to three months, while under the supervision of school staff…..I have a much more DETAILED statedment about this matter concerning my son. It should POST on this site very soon.
January 22, 2011 at 12:38 am | | Report comment
We are all equal before the law. Oral sex is not sex according to Clinton. So tone it down and let’s wait what the real storry is. It all depends in the meaning if “is”. I commend those kids to strive tirelessly to become the next president! After
January 21, 2011 at 10:20 pm | | Report comment
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“why would any sane person put their child in public school these days?”
well, they’re probably either
A. Too poor to send their children to private school.
or
B. Too busy working jobs and making money to feed their families with to homeschool their children.
Don’t assume everyone has the same priveleges that you do.
January 22, 2011 at 12:40 am | | Report comment
I am a highly qualified, highly educated teacher in public school, 4th grade. Yes, there are a lot of problems with our school systems, and yes, there are some really bad teachers out there. But, there are some fabulous, talented, motivated, powerfully influential people teaching your children about good choices and becoming whatever they want to be, and lighting a fire in your children to get their education because it is their winning lottery ticket to their future. I work in an “underprivileged” neighborhood school, and I know the staff and my principal, and I stand very proud to say that every child attending my school is the MOST privileged child in town! Don’t pin bad things on the public school teachers — only the few that are bad get the spotlight and everyone points the finger and generalizes about the entire industry. There are far more good teachers than bad — why don’t they ever get a story making the headlines?
January 22, 2011 at 1:51 am | | Report comment
wat!
January 22, 2011 at 12:50 am | | Report comment
I never got to do such things when I was in grade school.
January 22, 2011 at 12:53 am | | Report comment
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@Bobfromct Yes it is racist because drop out rates, teen pregnancies, crime rates, welfare rates etc, etc….is going on in every American town near you……therefor it’s an American problem.
My issue with the teacher IS Two of the kids that were having sex were able to strip down and get nude! WTH? Where was the teacher? She clearly was not watching her class.
January 22, 2011 at 1:41 am | | Report comment
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Doing oral in second grade eh. Uniquely American.
I wonder if she swallowed ? Could there be anything to swallow ? O’course, having been to Oakland, and met some of it fine inhabitants, it’s possible a second grader could B oba twunny. Werd up ?
January 22, 2011 at 2:35 am | | Report comment
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The Teacher is to blame for being a perverted pedophile, the administration of the school is to blame for not knowing what the he$# was going on in the classroom. The parents are to blame for putting their kids in these warehouses and not watching them at home, Internet pornographers are to blame for soaking our society with their sicko perversion, the government is to blame for not stopping the pornographers, Television is to blame for producing shows that show people in sexual situations at prime time hour, MTV is to blame for producing sleaze, shall I go on?
January 22, 2011 at 2:40 am | | Report comment
EXCELLENT POST!
January 22, 2011 at 9:04 am | | Report comment
This teacher will be in jail for years before the teachers’ union boots him or her out. This wasn’t even a first incident. Like the known cover-ups in the abominable Dr. Gosnell fetal abattoir case, you have to wonder how much people around this sick teacher knew of this heinous behavior and when they knew it. Given it’s San Francisco, I am not encouraged. Lastly, why is this teacher’s name not public? More union protection? Who else gets that kind of media inattention?
January 22, 2011 at 2:59 am | | Report comment
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You wonder why it happened? Just watch the spokes creature for the district. It was so totally confused at why folks were upset. Goes without saying there was a lousy teacher there. Decent people wouldn’t work there even if the district would hire them. When you have a curriculum that says it’s fine for pedophiles (let’s use the correct term) to get married, do you think the kids are learning any moral values. This is a place that also wanted to teach ebonics.
January 22, 2011 at 4:32 am | | Report comment
Place the blame where it should, the teacher/teachers involved, the liberal control of acadamia in general. At home the parents who allow the children to view what is obviously inappropriate for the younger/youngest viewers, not television itself, unless you cannot figure out how to change the channel.
January 22, 2011 at 5:43 am | | Report comment
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When I was in 5th grade I got a hand job from a girl in the back of the classroom, and that was before MTV, video games and internet porn. Kids will be kids.
January 22, 2011 at 5:52 am | | Report comment
Lastly who is going to stop them everyone is posting on a message board back in the day THAT Teacher would have some Parents kick his or her A$$
January 22, 2011 at 5:57 am | | Report comment
SOMEONE PICK UP THE G D AMN PHONE AND CALL THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND HAVE THE PRINCIPAL AND SUPER of the School KICKED OUT. In the article this is sated to be the second INCIDENT WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO CORRECT THIS A SHOOTING OR SEX ORGY WITH 30 4 yr olds
January 22, 2011 at 6:08 am | | Report comment
Lack of supervision or coercion? Who is supervising the teacher?
The worst part of this is the comments from so many of our ‘fellow’ citizens who think this was ‘normal behavior’. Our country’s slide is even worse than I thought.
January 22, 2011 at 6:17 am | | Report comment
No doubt another example of the media sensationalizing an incident that has not been fully investigated. There is such a witch hunt for teachers that anything that even resembles sex is pounced upon since subconciously our country thinks of its teachers as prostitutes while we expect them to be saints who work miracles (which they do). Teachers need to sue for slander as this type of discrimination is reaching epedimic proportions and violates their civil rights. I don’t know the specifics of the incident but no doubt it is something relatively harmless that was broadcast without all of the facts.
January 22, 2011 at 6:27 am | | Report comment
When the district spokes creature gets up and tries to lisp away an excuse you can see the problem. Maybe if the school taught some morality instead of why gays are great there would be that issue. Maybe the teacher didn’t recognize it was sex since they weren’t of the same gender.
January 22, 2011 at 6:35 am | | Report comment
Why is this not child pornography? If the teacher new this was going on, maybe the teacher was watching?
January 22, 2011 at 6:43 am | | Report comment
A round of applause for union teachers….please.
January 22, 2011 at 6:46 am | | Report comment
Just another reason we are homeschooling!
January 22, 2011 at 7:21 am | | Report comment
The trick here is not to blame the teacher, or the parents, or society, and especially not the San Francisco atmosphere, but to place the blame on the real culprit: Sarah Palin. How long till our media and elites bring her into focus for this evil? Hell, she is responsible for every other evil in this world, why not this outrage also?
January 22, 2011 at 7:24 am | | Report comment
baseless, valueless = government!! this is a public school!! and you want more government. government does not know how to run ANYTHING, let alone our healthcare.. get with it everyone. This decline can be all pointed toward an enabling system of government. And also remember …home is where the education of a child begins and continues. we live in an oppressive system of making poverty way way too comfortable. we have uneducated children having more uneducated children. less government makes more personal responsibilty
January 22, 2011 at 7:25 am | | Report comment
Well,not suprising kids would pick up such behavior with television shows on MTV, Disney, and also the access is so easy online it is not even fair. However, this teacher (he or she) should be prosecuted to the fullest for watching this take place and doing nothing to stop it. That is sick and inexcusable. Those poor children. God only knows what they have seen or experienced at home. I can only hope they can get some help as they still have a chance for a normal life.
January 22, 2011 at 7:56 am | | Report comment
“Just sex???” Are you freaking kidding? The teacher didn’t stop them or report for at least a day? Porn on the internet could be an issue her but my guess is that porn in the home or some kind of molestation is involved. There are young children. Our culture is sexualizing our kids at a phenomenal rate. Look at the sex on regular television. Even the commercials need to be rated. I saw the Vodka commercial with two women kissing on Sunday afternoon on Nickelodeon. I could not believe it. The pornification of our kids and teens is nuts. For all of you who think it’s “just sex” you must not have kids. I hope the investigation includes the parents and families. The story does not really address whether the teacher encouraged this behavior or just caught them.
January 22, 2011 at 8:10 am | | Report comment
I would be money that this incident will prove to be ‘not true’. This seems astounding. How did the incident get reported, and in what terms, and to whom? Quick reaction and and freeze on comments is to be expected from the school district, but let’s talk about the decline of western civilization after we wait for the facts to come out first.
January 22, 2011 at 8:13 am | | Report comment
This is nothing, Think about twins in the womb! They are naked and all over each other. No one says anyhting about that!!! And they are in a woman’s vigina, for crying out loud.
January 22, 2011 at 8:34 am | | Report comment
This is awesome.
January 22, 2011 at 8:35 am | | Report comment
I wonder what our “school safety czar” Kevin Jennings is thinking, Hmmmmm….
“Those kids should have done as I taught them and engaged in “fisting”.
January 22, 2011 at 8:40 am | | Report comment
Um, MTV is not to blame. It’s the Internet.
Kids are on it starting a 2 and parents should observe it’s use and be more proactive than ever instilling proper morals.
Teacher is not at fault. Even children must be held accountable for their actions.
Personal responsibility. Want to act like an adult- you must deal with the consequences.
January 22, 2011 at 8:41 am | | Report comment
As a former, second grade teacher and assistant principal, I only wish more children could get this education when they are 8 years old. Many think this is reprehensible, but it’s all relative. In many countries, i.e. Canada, Ukraine, etc, there is no age of consent law and their system works very well. The sooner we educate, the better we will be as a society.
January 22, 2011 at 8:44 am | | Report comment
You have your facts wrong. In Canada, the age of consent is 14. So, we would not allow oral sex in a second grade class. Middle school maybe, but not 2nd grade. iI do agree with your point about educate early.
January 22, 2011 at 8:48 am | | Report comment
Yeah, the government should definately teach morals and sex to children.
Take the parents rights and morals totally out of the equation.
Cause the government always does an excellent job educating. Look at the Atlanta schools about to lose accreditation. I wonder what their sex Ed would look like.
Really? I am glad you are not at my areas’s school.
The government cant solve everything. Just focus on subjects of school and not of life and morals.
January 22, 2011 at 8:51 am | | Report comment
I am interested to know if the students were questioned about sex acts without parents present. Hmm….
January 22, 2011 at 8:45 am | | Report comment
IT’S SAN FRANCISCO, DUH.
DUH
DUH
DUH
January 22, 2011 at 8:55 am | | Report comment
This teacher is nothing but a pervert. These children will undoubtedly suffer for a lifetime because of what she did. My child is this age. This person deserves more than jail time.
January 22, 2011 at 9:09 am | | Report comment
The Liberal/’Progressive’ teacher’s UNION will bail the perverted teacher out, no doubt!!!!
January 22, 2011 at 9:12 am | | Report comment
Omg!!!!!! This is disgusting and shocking. I am horrified by this news article. Our society, schools and young ones are in serious trouble and has reached an alltime low. What next?? What a disgrace, how sick!!!!!!
January 22, 2011 at 9:18 am | | Report comment
Three Explanations:
1) The teacher is a moron (in which case the principal should be fired for hiring and retaining him)
2) The teacher is a pervert
3) Both #1 and 2 are true.
January 22, 2011 at 9:25 am | | Report comment
Was it blacks? If so nothing to worry about here. Why they even get an education in the first place is beyond me.
January 22, 2011 at 9:28 am | | Report comment
Why is everyone shocked? Look at the state of our country. People living together without marriage, having children out of wedlock, showing sex acts in movies and on television. If a company wants to sell a pack of gum they advertise with sex. It is all very disgusting. Don’t be surprised. And I add–look at the new tv show “SKINS!” And people are surprised? Give me a break!! Watch the SuperBowl ads. Son’t be surprised!!! Hollywood, rock stars, and television, and now the computers are to blame for our decline.
January 22, 2011 at 9:35 am | | Report comment
The solution is simple. File charges against the teacher and send them to prison. Fire the principal, who is responsible for the hiring of the teacher, and investigate the superintendent to see if they need to go due to the atmosphere created by their leadership, or…. we can just sit back and get used to elementary children having sex with each other in class…. another progressive moment brought to you by the San Francisco/Oakland Bay area.
January 22, 2011 at 10:07 am | | Report comment
JERRY JERRY JERRY! JERRY JERRY! JERRY JERRY!
January 22, 2011 at 10:17 am | | Report comment
It is because in USA boards of education,,principals and the teachers can not be sued the law must change…yes the teachers loose their lic. but can teach else ware.some do go to jail but not sued!!!..BOARDS REFUSE TO HAVE CONTRACTS LIKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES DOes THE TEACHERS COLLEGE DO NOT CHECKI OUT THE FUTURE TEACHERS LIKE THE CHURCHES DO THE STate AND PRIVATE COLLEGEs DO NOt CHECKING OF FUTURE TEACHERS
January 22, 2011 at 10:33 am | | Report comment
ARE THESE THE ONLY 2nd GRADERS THAT HAVE HAD ORAL SEX?
I just don’t think so and here’s why:
In high school, 10 years ago, a friend of mine had a younger cousin in middle school in our school district. This little girl was caught in the locker room showers having a 10 person orgy. It was not her first promiscuous act – we knew started at an even younger age. Her parents had her on birth control; they were most concerned about her getting pregnant at a young age, more than the degradation of her body. She still does not use/understand restraint in many area of her life and uses her body to get what she wants.
I know this little girl’s parents loved her. Where are these children learning this behavior? Where is the disconnect in parenting?
Either parent, alone, made enough to generously support their family, but both worked so they could live a more indulgent lifestyle. The girl had a babysitter when she was little, but at around 10 or so her parents thought she would be safe enough alone. She was free to have friends over her house with or without her parents knowing and she could watch whatever she wanted.
When she was caught in the locker room, she didn’t care what her parents thought or how they disciplined her. Why would she? Her parents were pretty much absent and unresponsive to her. Why would she be responsible with herself when her own parents weren’t?
January 22, 2011 at 10:36 am | | Report comment
The only real surprise is that it happened in a classroom.. Most kids are and have always been curious about sex. Back in the 50′s there were kids having sex. Your children are not the perfect angels you think they are.
January 22, 2011 at 10:40 am | | Report comment
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January 22, 2011 at 10:41 am | | Report comment
The teacher was suspended? With pay, no doubt. Why wasn’t the teacher arrested?
January 22, 2011 at 10:59 am | | Report comment
Personally, what really sickens me is the fact that no ADULT seems to be able to have a civilized discussion or debate any more. Instead of stating your position and then presenting actual facts to support that position, everyone would simply rather just flame and mudsling.
Liberal or conservative society? I dare anyone to support either of those assertions. (No, the last election doesn’t support a “conservative society” since the democrats still control the Senate)
Increase in child rape/abduction in the last ten years? DOJ crime statistics would dispute that.
Obama is to blame? REALLY?!
Anyway, I know you all will have a plethora of flames and epitaths to hurl at me since I haven’t just jumped on your “attack anyone that doesn’t agree with you” bandwagon so have at it and prove exactly what I stated at the beginning of this post.
January 22, 2011 at 11:03 am | | Report comment
If they had a Chinese mother, this would’ve never happened.
January 22, 2011 at 11:39 am | | Report comment
Nothing that happens in this modern-day Sodom surprises me. I pray for their eternal souls.
Oh, and Howard–just because there weren’t enough senator’s with D’s behind their name to turn the senate over this time doesn’t it won’t happen next–in fact, it’s a virtual guarantee the Republicans will regain the Senate, strengthen their House presence, and take the Presidency as well. Will you concede we’re a right-leaning country then?
Obama couldn’t even run as the leftist he obviously is. He had to hide his past, disavow his present, and lie about who he was going to be to win the White House.
January 22, 2011 at 11:40 am | | Report comment
Actually, elections do not prove that the country leans one way or the other politically since only about one quarter of eligible adults vote in any given election.
What I will agree to is that this country does have serious problems that need to be dealt with but neither party seems interested in addressing them in a meaningful way. Instead both parties are more interested in appeasing their respective bases which are getting more and more radical all the time. Both sides continue to distort the truth or just make up their own facts to support their position. And both parties are more interested in doing what is politically expedient to get themselves reelected rather than looking at what the problems are and dealing with them in a meaningful way. Disagreement, discussion, and debate are fine and will usually lead to a resolution. Mudslinging, name calling, and fear mongering do not.
January 22, 2011 at 11:54 am | | Report comment
2nd graders? YOu gotta be kidding….This isn’t something that has been happening all along in our society. This is a new phenomenon, and we’re ALL to be blame!
January 22, 2011 at 11:41 am | | Report comment
Of _course_ “it” has been happening all along… if you are talking about kids having sex. “It” has happened in all societies in all the ages of man on this planet! Only in repressive and sex-negative societies is “it” stigmatized, however.
Granted, the teacher should have used better judgment and told the kids to keep the sex at home where -in our society- it “belongs” – and -incidentally- where the parents could use their judgment as to whether or not their kids were being appropriate, safe, and loving… or merely repeating learned behavior.
Parents do have a responsibility to their kids to keep them safe and to keep others from exploiting or unduly influencing them… but ultimately, it is the kids’ own bodies, their own lives, and it is really their own decision whether or not to have sex, and with whom.
Granting children their natural human right to the control of their own bodies does not abrogate a parent’s responsibility towards their child; it rather deepens this responsibility. It is more _work_ to have a deep and truthful and _equal_ relationship with a child, and frankly I doubt most parents would be up to the challenge. I do think that parents often have failed their children, that the schools are ugly and insensitive places which resemble day-care or kiddie prisons more than places of learning, and that the media require a good deal of explanation for most kids. Parents often do not have the resources to guide, nor time to truly know, their own children, and this is a fault of society and is tacitly allowed by “all of us”… but it is attitudes which demonize the natural and healthy explorations of our children which keep us mired in attitudes of hatred and misunderstanding.
It is sad to me that more parents, and people in wider society, do not recognize kids’ natural human right to determine the use of their own bodies. We can best keep our children safe not by denying them the enjoyment of the glorious instruments, given them by God (or nature, if you prefer), which are their bodies, but by guiding them, opening a dialogue, negotiating, and emphasizing their responsibility for themselves which is the counterpart of freedom.
Granting kids a say in what happens to their bodies is the other side of telling them they have the freedom to tell another person “no”… they should also have the freedom to tell another person, “yes”, and also to initiate sexual contact. It is natural, good, and right that kids have the right of their own bodies, including the pleasure of sexual contact, and it is wrong of others to control them to the point that they are almost seen as chattel, as almost a parent’s property.
There is no “blame” in kids having sex… but we _are_ all to blame for not seeing kids as human beings, with their own needs and desires, including sexual desires, and for not caring enough about the oppression they face to fight for their rights, including, but not limited to, the right to have control of their own bodies. Children are “equal but different”, and we need to respect them and give them the courtesy due them.
January 24, 2011 at 11:33 pm | | Report comment
People that do not like Americans are now here living with us in America. They have successfully infiltrated our schools media, laws, politics etc. They wring politicians especially democrat’s arms behind them that if they do not support their godless and liberal agenda they will not get their monies for reelections. They help elect those who pretend to support American views, but once in’ threatens them again if they don’t push for an anti American or godless issues, like taking prayers from our schools, no money will be donated to them. They have succesfully controlled the media that once this”lie center” says to repeat a certain phrase over and over in their numerous tv, radio, and the politicians they support to take advantage of the notion “if it is repeated over and over, even if a lie,it can be construed as true”. Wake up America and stop supporting the wrong candidates. They always promise us evrything we want with free this and that but divides us and eventually collapse this country, in the end-their main goal and at our very own expense and downfall. Think about it: political candidates with no ideas wants to give free things away just so you will vote for them but their very hearts and minds hate this country.Why should you vote for those people? Tell them instead to go back to where their minds come from-godless fearing areas etc. Proofs you can see with your own eyes: 1) They say they love our children right? Guess what, when our grade school kids are compared to the world we come in the 24th or so, destroyed by their unions which protect inept teachers and forces our kids to listen and embrace their hatred on America . 2) They say bads things about Christians, but it was them that transformed this place into the best country in the world that it is today. 3) They say democrats (their target to bring out their bad agendas on America) are for the oppressed, read your books, it was the democrats that wanted to keep black slavery intact until the republicans fought with their blood to free these slaves, and they were Christians too.4) people that do not like America that usually support democrats have also infiltrated Hollywood; watch most of their movies they always portray broken families, teens acting like adults, and now blaming America that it was all our fault for the world’d mess; then these actors/actresses are now forcing their thoughts on us thinking they are now credible sources of their messages like global warming which when implemented here in America will fine many companies which would then forced to cut jobs 5) Global warning will be the cause of calamities to come, trying to negate what has been predicted thousands of years ago as written in the Book of Revelations of the Holy Bible. They rather you turn your back on God and be kind to mother earth which God made 6) They have figured out that there are are two types of voters:ones that can see part of the future and are responsible and the other ones that cannot see the future and thrive on their emotions- all they have to do is fire up people’s emotions against the republicans especially 2 weeks before an election, and no matter how correct the other side is, emotions trump brains and people vote democrat again. All they have to do is rile people up on race, poverty, morality etc and people who by nature do not research facts but believe more by word of mouth are fooled again and again.I was a democrat for about 8 years until I figured their way of manipulating people’s minds but to the detriment of this nation. The republicans are really very close to the ways democrat operate, the tie braker lies where our nation’s enemies fund and sides with democrats most often and they in turn pay them back with bad policies for America sugar coated with freebees.
January 22, 2011 at 11:52 am | | Report comment
Teacher’s union is too strong when you can’t fire a teacher for this…[she/he?] was probably filming it…cops should be all over his/her tech gadgets immediately.
January 22, 2011 at 11:59 am | | Report comment
Hummm, so just how is that “kicking God out of school” thing goin’ for ya? Happy with the results?
January 22, 2011 at 12:17 pm | | Report comment
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Probably just practicing what was taught in their Kindergarten sex ed class. California is financially and morally bankrupt.
January 22, 2011 at 1:19 pm | | Report comment
Imagine if just 30 per cent of the people commenting here actually did something with their time.
January 22, 2011 at 1:24 pm | | Report comment
You just kinow they are black ! Black people are the worst parents on earth, And society ie the Governement raises black peoples children and you how wonderfull the government is doing things ! Im sorry but The “N” word fits these people most are just animals in human clothing.
January 22, 2011 at 1:29 pm | | Report comment
WOW! When I was 7 or 8 yrs old. If I got a Woody, I was probably scared something was wrong! It wasn’t till I was about 10 that I dicoveredthe hairless clam!
January 22, 2011 at 1:29 pm | | Report comment
When every perverted behavior between black males and black females is lionized by a jaded, permissive sub-culture–THIS is hardly surprising! Many of these same over-sexed kiddies have been suckled on various sources of pornography i.e. music; music videos; and ubiquitous profanity These kids probably watch their mothers engage in oral sex with a never-ending stream of male sexual partners. Is it any wonder that the children then “act out” in class, what’s going on at home? Is it possible for CPS to bring a class-action abuse charge against an entire community? Probably not…but this IS an opportunity to address endemic child-pornography abuse within “the community” before yet ANOTHER generation is lost. When will “community leaders” man-up and require accountability from their own? Alas…never.
January 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm | | Report comment
The reason it doesn’t get taught at home is because the government school system has assured parents that they don’t know what they are doing and should instead entrust the raising of their children to the State. You know, where the professional are. The people who know what they are doing. Look up “in loco parentis” sometime. It is also about influence. The kids are under the “care” and “training” of the government school system for 7 to 8 ours a day (unless they also participate in an after-school program or a before-school program or both). By the time they get home the only influence parents have is a few minutes in between dinner, homework, and bedtime. Plus these parents themselves were largely raised by the State and so do not know how to be parents.
January 22, 2011 at 2:05 pm | | Report comment
Don’t get me wrong, it IS the parent’s responsibility. It’s just that they have been convinced of the lie that it isn”t.
January 22, 2011 at 2:08 pm | | Report comment
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Little monkeys at it again
January 22, 2011 at 2:17 pm | | Report comment
This is California where everything goes, it seems. I wonder if this teacher is a pedophile? Happened twice in his or her class. Very suspicious. How do these children even know about this stuff? What has happened to parents? These children should be removed from their homes if this is what they are learning in them and the teacher should be fired with no benefits. Of course the teachers’ union will try to protect this teacher. Another reason to outlaw teachers’ unions and get rid of the Education Department in Washington. There is so much wrong in this story.
January 22, 2011 at 2:39 pm | | Report comment
While I do believe the responsiblity of raising children should be the parents’ , you can raise your children in a Christian home with strict morals and teach them all the rights and wrongs and then when you send them to a government school all that you have taught them is demonized or our children are told their parents are wrong. Schools use to back up the parents, but now it seems government schools are insistent on making the parents irrelevant in many ways. Don’t want your kid to get taught about sodomy, too bad, it will be taught them. Your kid wears a cross to school and it offends someone so they cannot wear it making them think there is something wrong with the cross. Can’t read a Bible in school, but learn how to put on a condom and where to go to get an abortion. When God was taken out of school, which is ridiculous, all morals and rules seemed to leave also. This may be a graphic case, but if we knew what is going on in inner -city schools we would all be shocked. It’s not about money either. We have spent more on education in this country than most other countries and this is what we get. Teachers who don’t know what is going on in their own classroom, although I find that hard to believe. I think this teacher was well aware of it unless he or she was stoned out of their mind.
January 22, 2011 at 3:00 pm | | Report comment
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I am extremely saddened and disappointed that nothing like this ever happened to me through all 12 years.
January 22, 2011 at 3:38 pm | | Report comment
You reap what you sow, SanFranSicko. We will continue to boycott every Californian product as payback for boycotting AZ. I have influenced dozens of people. Just today I opted for Chilean wine over a California and smiled. Nothing good will become of California if they don’t change their evil liberal ways. The whole nation, indeed, the entire planet is expecting California to economically and socially to implode. Race riots, looting, food riots. Just don’t move here when it does.
January 22, 2011 at 3:45 pm | | Report comment
I don’t get it. I understand why that sort of behavior would be considered disgraceful and inappropriate in Idaho, but in San Fransisco, isn’t that the norm? Isn’t that just socially acceptable? I would think that in San Fransisco, the gays would be having an uprising because the teacher didn’t teach the little girl how to do it lezzie style.
SFO is sick and perverted, and loves it that way.
January 22, 2011 at 3:55 pm | | Report comment
Being San Francisco, I’m sure it be okay to teach them how to perform gay oral sex and sodomy then there would be no issue, would there? Freaks, the lot of them. The place is utterly hopeless. I agree with poster above – just sign the state over to Mexico and be done with it.
January 22, 2011 at 3:56 pm | | Report comment
This is exactly what kind of behavior you should expect from the enlightened few who call themselves LIBERALS and PROGRESSIVES….I don’t know why any of you are surprised it happened…or that it happened in California.
January 22, 2011 at 4:58 pm | | Report comment
Don’t these kids learn about condoms at this age? May as well put into practice what they learn in school…Isn’t this what school is supposed to be for? Practicing in the real world what they learn?
January 22, 2011 at 5:52 pm | | Report comment
HANG THE TEACHER!!!!!
January 22, 2011 at 5:53 pm | | Report comment
HAND THE TEACHER!
January 22, 2011 at 5:55 pm | | Report comment
Find the nearest tree! This teachere (pedophile) needs hung!
January 22, 2011 at 6:10 pm | | Report comment
Why wasnt the teacher FIRED and arrested???? This is what wrong withtodays society. No consequences.
January 22, 2011 at 6:14 pm | | Report comment
Isn’t Oakland a heavily Democratic area? Didn’t President Clinton say oral sex isn’t really sex?
You reap what you sow.
January 22, 2011 at 6:48 pm | | Report comment
Where did 2nd graders learn how to perform sex acts. This stinks of child abuse at home that carried over into school. Their parents and the teacher should have been arrested.
January 22, 2011 at 6:50 pm | | Report comment
The teacher is suspended? What would it take for the teacher to be fired?
January 22, 2011 at 9:14 pm | | Report comment
We are very protective of what our kids see, hear and watch. but they went to public school this yr and the things they gave heard and said is unbelieveable. School is bad but the worst place is to be on a school bus. we live in a rural area so all ages ride the same bus. its been 20 yrs since my son rode and it was bad then but it is unbelieveable now. we’re counting down to may 28 then back to home school and co-ops. be glad the teacher couldve not only been watching but now adaqys participating
January 22, 2011 at 10:04 pm | | Report comment
Wow, I didnt know about oral sex till 8th grade. Guess my parents did their job….looks like their parents ARENT doing theirs. Disgusting.
January 22, 2011 at 10:23 pm | | Report comment
Good parents can’t do their job anymore. My son caught his wife in a motel room having sex with some random guy…with his young daughter crying for her daddy on the next bed!! He broke the door in and HE was arrested and thrown in jail. His wife (ex wife now) won custody. Couldn’t even bring it up in court as adultry is no longer grounds for divorce and improper parenting. And, we live in Kansas. It is everywhere, not just California.
January 24, 2011 at 9:40 am | | Report comment
Im not against sex ,but at this age….Take this teacher out and shoot him. Oh wait ..the ACLU will protect him. End this persons sick view of the world and the spread of this disease.
January 22, 2011 at 11:38 pm | | Report comment
How would second graders know what to do with their hairless little pricks? Oh, I forgot the Pervert Democrats/Liberals taught them in sex education class in kindergarten.
January 23, 2011 at 12:11 am | | Report comment
Is this world going nuts or what?
January 23, 2011 at 1:46 am | | Report comment
Thought it was mandatory first grade sex in San Fransisco.
January 23, 2011 at 4:21 am | | Report comment
Dave in NYC, obviously you don’t have children, but I bet you lust after them.
January 23, 2011 at 5:55 am | | Report comment
The pervert Bill Clinton made it in vogue.
The teacher can’t explain what Is Is – just like Wild Bill.
January 23, 2011 at 6:28 am | | Report comment
Did they confiscate the teacher’s video cam?
January 23, 2011 at 6:32 am | | Report comment
How is it that I was able to guess this took place in California even before I clicked through the headlines?
January 23, 2011 at 6:33 am | | Report comment
Dave in NY – You’re an ass. You think that two 2nd graders are naked and having oral sex IN CLASS because they are sexually repressed????? Wow, you’re clueless! How do 2nd graders become sexually repressed? We have a huge decay of our moral fiber in this country. I hope you don’t have kids. There ought to be a law against you raising kids.
January 23, 2011 at 6:43 am | | Report comment
OMFG…if this happened while the teacher was in class…well HELLOOOOOO obviousley the teacher was involved in the hole shananagins! He helped and probly undressed the kids him self, and directed the little boy and girl what to do…like they see this on tv right…right…blame TV for every mistake a kid makes…big or little …stop blaming TV….Dont watch it…if its going to effect you
January 23, 2011 at 6:58 am | | Report comment
The aristocrats!
January 23, 2011 at 7:03 am | | Report comment
Reject Liberalism as it is a CLEAR Mental disorder. This is proof positive. Liberals are a nasty, vile, sick and twisted bunch of freaks who represent a disease that is far out of control.
January 23, 2011 at 7:12 am | | Report comment
WOW!!! THIS IS ONE DISTURBING STORY.
January 23, 2011 at 7:21 am | | Report comment
Well this report is totally insane. These kids had to have learned this behaviour from someone…maybe the teacher?
January 23, 2011 at 7:41 am | | Report comment
Oh the poor teacher??? you must be kidding! Kids naked in class, why didn’t the teacher catch it?
The teacher is probably the problem. A pervert, a pedophile. I have 5 kids there is no way you can tell me that this wasn’t at the instruction of the teacher.
January 23, 2011 at 7:51 am | | Report comment
There is something seriously wrong with the people in and around the San Francisco area
January 23, 2011 at 8:00 am | | Report comment
Its nice to see how everyone has such a short memory. Many of you agreed with the teaching of sex and handing out of condoms in schools to teens and pre-teens. Stomped on us and called us religious wacko’s and now are surprised that a teacher is going a little overboard in instruction. The exact reason my children are in a christian private school where at least the curriculum is academically based and not socially influenced.
January 23, 2011 at 8:16 am | | Report comment
Children should be learning in school, not experimenting w sex. It is very sad to see this at this adolesent age.It starts w parental guidance at home, parents or guardians should be teaching children right and wrong. The teacher should be removed immediately from work w children, and brought up on child endangerment charges. Some of the responses here however indicate the sickness in our society at large and where “outside the home” children pick up distorted views and sickness.
January 23, 2011 at 10:30 am | | Report comment
ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS, HOWEVER SICKENING & DISTASTEFUL THIS IS, DUE TO THE AGE & LOCATION WHERE THIS OCURRED; THIS IS CALIFORNI-CATION & IF UR SHOCKED, WAKE UP & DO SOME MATH HERE. 2 2 always = 4.. & ANY STATE WHICH SUPPORTS A STATE TAX SYSTEM WHERE THEY VOTE FOR CHARGING TAXPAYERS FOR SEX-CHANGES, SHOULD EXPECT ANY & EVERY FORM OF PERVERSION & CHILD MOLESTATION. GIMME A BREAK!! 30 YRS AGO THIS STATE WAS PROMOTING & SUPPORTING EVERY FORM OF CRIME & PERVERSION KNOWN TO MANKIND.. OF COURSE THEY’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REAP THIS LEVEL OF INSANITY!!
January 23, 2011 at 12:12 pm | | Report comment
CLEARLY MM & A COUPLE OTHERS HERE ARE INSANE.. LOLAMENTO? U GUYS ARE BUGGARS, NUTS! SEX IN USE THE WAY IT WAS CREATED, IS A WONDERFUL THING, A NATION WITH RAMPANT MORALS IS DEADLY. LOOK AT INDIA & AFRICA’S AIDS & STD EPIDEMIC & TELL ME U REALLY WANT TO EXCUSE THE DECLINE OF THIS NATION?? U WOULD HAVE TO BE PARTIALLY INSANE OR TOTALLY IGNORANT OF THE USELESS SUFFERING THAT IS COMING OUR WAY IF WE DONT GET A GRIP. PRESENTLY THERE ARE MILLIONS OF ORPHANS JUST FROM AIDS IN AFRICA ALONE, WHERE DO U THINK WE’RE HEADED IF OUR HEALTHCARE FAILS US & THIS KIND OF INSANITY BEING PROMOTED IN AMERICAN FAMILIES?
January 23, 2011 at 12:41 pm | | Report comment
SHELLY & HOGAN: U R SO RIGHT ON, PARENTS HAVE DROPPED THE BALL, MORE & MORE IN THE PAST COUPLE DECADES, BUT EXPOSING OUR KIDS TO A BIZARRO MEDIA-GONE WILD IS AT LEAST AS DANGEROUS AS THROWING UR CHILD IN THE PATH OF ONCOMING, RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC & WALKING AWAY. IVE WORKED IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS & AS A COUNSELOR FOR MANY YEARS & HAVE FRONTLINE EXPERIENCE OF WHAT OUR KIDS ARE BEING RAISED BY, IN THEIR HOMES. EVEN REALLY GOOD TEACHERS CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH WITH “WROTTEN” KIDS WHO HAVE NO PROPER TEACHING OR BOUNDARIES AT HOME.. ADD THAT TO MILLIONS BEING RAISED IN FRONT OF MTV, ETC., WHAT CAN U EXPECT? & YAH, THERES SOME FREAKING INSANE TEACHERS LOOSED ON OUR KIDS TOO THESE DAYS, WORSE THAN EVER BEFORE.. BUT LOOK AT THE MOVIES & GAMES MANY OF THEM ARE ALSO EXPOSED TO.. NO WONDER WHATS HAPPENING AT SCHOOL.. GOD HELP US.
January 23, 2011 at 1:37 pm | | Report comment
U R AGAIN, SO TOTALLY RIGHT ON!! WHAT HAPPENED IN CALIF. IS ALSO CREEPING EVER CLOSER TO THE ‘NORM’ IN MOST ALL OF OUR USA. IF WE REMAIN APATHETIC TO THE SEXUAL PERVERSION & TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, WE ARE TOTALLY LOST.
January 23, 2011 at 1:55 pm | | Report comment
The hormone and antibiotics that aregiven to all cattle to keep them from becoming sick ,
The hormones enter your childrens bodies thru dairy products and cause early puberty. I have wondered for some time why little girls who used to be playing with dolls at 9 yrs oge are now worried about boyfriends and dating. Monsanto now says that every cow will be given these drugs. But you can be sure that the Progressives will have farms that will not have to abide by this.
January 23, 2011 at 3:01 pm | | Report comment
KEVIN JENNINGS aks “safe schools czar”….EVERYBODY should look him up.
January 23, 2011 at 6:32 pm | | Report comment
It’s all Al Davis’ fault!
January 24, 2011 at 3:50 am | | Report comment
The chickens are coming home to roost!
When a generation grows up being exposed to sex 24/7, one should not be surprised that some of them ultimately grow up w/o a moral compass. For this teacher to allow these children to undress and perform oral sex in front of the class is a sign that child pornography is her/his near future.
I feel sorry for the parents sending children to that school district because the lack of outrage from that school district’s superintendent is a sign that his moral compass is also broken.
January 24, 2011 at 12:07 pm | | Report comment
We are not -obviously- getting the full story here. Did the teacher orchestrate it? -Was she encouraging them? -Was she simply unable to “control” the kids? -We don’t know, and unfortunately we will probably never get to hear the true and full story, due to the unpalatable nature of the events.
Everyone jumps on someone – the parents, the teacher, the kids themselves, even Obama (!)… but the reality of children and childhood is that kids have sexual feelings and desires, and only a sick and repressive society will deny it. I was masturbating at 4, no one had to show me how, and I had (enthusiastic) sex with other kids at 5. Big deal! -What is wrong with that? It wasn’t the sex itself that was harmful to me, it was the secrets I was forced to keep and the negative way it was viewed which was so bad for me.
I do think that it is a sign of faulty socialization -in our society- for the kids to do it openly and in a classroom, though. However, it is, IMO, a sign of a sick society that such furor is made over kids being kids. Sure the teacher should have gently told them that it was not appropriate to have sex in a classroom, and to keep it at home where it belongs. But kids are human beings and have sexual feelings and experiences. It is a natural part of their lives… as any parent reasonably in touch with their kids can tell you.
-Fix
January 24, 2011 at 10:39 pm | | Report comment
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The overall problem is obvious from the number of comments who see nothing wrong with what happened. The Bay area is infested with the NAMBLA/gay crowd who seek to implement their pedophile agenda. They shouldn’t be allowed within 1000 ft of a school, yet alone to teach or be hired as the district spokescreature.
January 26, 2011 at 12:46 pm | | Report comment
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people are always blaming what their kids on something or someone else. the blame is the parents. involved parents know what their kids or watching or doing at all times. quit blaming the world and look at what is happening in your childs life and where they are learning things. teach them right and wrong. teach them real and fake. its the parents job.
January 27, 2011 at 2:38 pm | | Report comment
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This is one of the many reasons I home school my children. 1st and 2nd graders are too young to be taught the birds and bees. I refuse to diminish the value of my childrens childhood telling them about adult behavior when they are too young to comprehend it. Good luck to all of you who entrust the government to teach your children about sexuality. Enjoy raising your grandchildren because your kids where too young when they conceived them and didn’t finish their education so they could support a family. Good luck to those of you who will have children with sexually transmitted diseases for the sake of government controled socialization. You don’t really know what is happening in school with your children until it’s too late. Until your children hint at it or they are old enough to communicate what really happened you don’t know. My own parents were shocked to learn several years later that my fourth grade class was babysat with the office intercom while my teacher had an affair with the principal. Our kindergarten teacher read novels while we played. I failed kindergarten at the next school I attended because I was not taught anything for half a year. Incidently I know a parent that was shocked to learn that her 13 year old son could not read and had been passed on each year to the next grade with good grades. Keep giving the government your money for schools! They are excellent!
February 19, 2011 at 6:35 am | | Report comment
You know what though? We can blame, blame, blame the media, but when it comes down to it, you have to supervise your own children. Who allows their children to watch MTV? Who allows them to watch rated R films? Who allows them to listen to rap? ESPECIALLY SECOND GRADERS! We are the PARENTS! We are in charge of what our children see! Yes, they may come in to contact with things occassionally, but unless they are living with someone else, WE ARE IN CHARGE OF HOW MUCH ACCESS OUR CHILDREN HAVE TO RADIO, TV, INTERNET, ECT! The media is definitely something that will negatively affect our children, but first, THEY HAVE TO BE ALLOWED TO WATCH/LISTEN TO IT. Our first step is to take responsibility for our own children.
This is a horrible story, and it sounds like the teacher in this should be in some SERIOUS trouble. In this case, the children may have been forced to do things, or taught things, by this teacher, and that is truely disgusting. But before we run to blame MTV for our children learning about this stuff, think about who it is that is in charge of the remote.
February 21, 2011 at 10:20 am | | Report comment
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And I’ve faced it. We can communicate on this theme. Here or in PM.
January 18, 2012 at 2:41 pm | | Report comment
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