SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) — Some East Bay conservatives say they live a secret life. They can never tell anyone what they really feel like in fear of their safety.

Robert Ward is coming out conservative, but in a place he says is risky for those who share his beliefs.

“If you witness what happened in Berkeley, actually they are so violent on top of it. I mean being a conservative in the Bay Area is like being a heretic,” says Ward. “You lead a double life. You can never tell your friends and co-workers.”

Robert says several Bay Area conservatives have secret meet ups like the one KPIX 5 was invited to visit in the East Bay.

Organizers asked not to disclose their location or the faces of anyone who attended, but insist this is the way it has to be in a liberal state.

“They seem to pride themselves on being diverse, and they are diverse about everything but their ideology,” says Ward. “I hope that in the future when people see Trump isn’t as scary as they think he is and a lot of the good things that happen and the prosperity comes back and the jobs come back, every one calms down a little bit.”

Comments (231)
  1. Why would any conservative still live in San Fran…for that matter all of Cali? It’s a lost cause..abandon ship…go somewhere you can make a difference…Texas comes to mind…

    1. Able Witness says:

      Precisely. Conservatives, people of Faith, business owners, real Americans should abandon California immediately. Two major reasons: 1) It is detrimental for the soul to perpetually be in contact with those who reject Divinity. 2) The coastal cities of California (cities all the way up into British Colombia) are going to be destroyed by geologic events (which occur like clockwork every so many decades). Get out before the Pacific Coast is cleansed.

    2. Brian Buda says:

      Because (1) San Francisco is a beautiful city, (2) California is a state filled with wonders, and (3) it’s my home.

      1. d0ct0rj says:

        Nice that you can appreciate and enjoy a city and a state where freedom of thought is rationed…

      2. jsolbakken says:

        Sure, San Fran Psycho is beautiful, from a distance, as long as you don’t get close enough to smell it.

        http://www.citylab.com/design/2014/11/so-youve-decided-to-map-sidewalk-poop-in-san-franciscso/382975/

    3. Ian McDonald says:

      Simple…
      1. Some of us don’t believe in running when it gets hard.
      2. Some of us can’t afford to leave
      3. Some of us our only job opportunity is here

      Fact is… it’s not easy to just up root and leave.

      1. jeffmartin254 says:

        Us Californians don’t transplant easilly….hard for some to understand that you don’t just leave a huge family, all of whom voted for trump, and go trotting off to Texas. I speak my mind and let the libs know that they don’t have the high ground..not anymore.

    4. Bren Taylor says:

      We’re leaving in about a year and a half. Both my husband and I were born here, but it’s’ not the same anymore. While liberals call conservatives Nazi’s, they’re the ones breaking windows, vandalizing property, setting fires and beating on people. What we saw in Berkeley reminded me of Kristallnacht, the Night of the Broken Glass, that the Nazi’s subjected the Jews to in Germany. Fascists aren’t working to give the states back their power so the people will have more local control. As long as we honor our Constitution, it’s impossible here. That’s why the founders broke the government up into three branches. So no one branch can have too much power. It stops a dictator from taking over here. That’s why we support the Constitution! When I hear people calling conservatives “fascists”, “white nationalists”, or “white supremacists” I realize I’m listening to someone who has been brainwashed by the people pushing global governance. Those people are in both parties. That’s where you’re going to encounter fascism in the future. Not here in America as long as we stick to our Constitution.

  2. This is what happens when the government takes away your right to self defense.

    1. Glenn Festog says:

      80 million gun owners disagree. American gun owners represent the largest armed group in the world, a fact that has been acknowledged by FOREIGN governments for years now. The largest military in the world isn’t even 10% of that number.

      People who think they won’t use their guns are the same ones who blew Trump off on November 8th, and just as wrong. lol

  3. California should secede already and leave the rest of us in peace…

    1. “Us”
      Like, I dunno, Oregon, Washington, New York, all of New England, most of New Jersey, easily half of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio –

      It’s our country, too.

    2. jeffmartin254 says:

      Not into struggling are you?

    3. Jim Bush says:

      The problem with this idea is that it’s not “California” — it’s very specifically the coastal cities. Rural California is actually Republican. Their votes get overwhelmed by the coastal liberals but they’re there. California trying to secede would start a civil war within California itself.

  4. Daniel Hall says:

    I totally understand where these people are coming from, 8 years of activism being glorified has created generation of mindless violent trolls. When they are in a group any other group would be considered terrorists or a violent street gang as individuals not one original thought or open mind. The classic if your not with them you are against them no open discussion just outrage and violence.

  5. Carlos Bravo says:

    I’ll remind the ‘tolerant’ people of SF that they live on top of an active fault line. There is an 8-year window where you could be begging for help from Trump’s admin.– the wheel turns every day. We all know each one of us is going to live forever.

    1. Able Witness says:

      After a significant event on the Pacific “Ring of Fire”, such as a >10 earthquake (Richter scale) and its resulting tsunami, there may be little if anything left within the S.F. Bay Area to rebuild. The same is true in the Cascadia subduction zone where one day an earthquake & its resulting tsunami will shoot into Elliot Bay and destroy Seattle Washington.

  6. Mark Sheats says:

    The loony left takes to the streets to beat up people they disagree with. That is how the left does things. We on the right go to the ballot box to dole out our beatings.

  7. Careful, your protected status is showing. The Berkeley you refer to has been gone almost a quarter Century. Welcome to U.C. Berkeley not the City of Berkeley – where nothing is as it seems or as it once was. As I have been told countless times “If you don’t like it leave. Don’t leave mad, just leave.” Welcome to Berkeley, now go home. . .

  8. Soros rent-a-thugs never sleep. Safe-space snowflakes now bullies for profit.

  9. Todd O says:

    The riot at Berkley was a modern era kristallnacht.

      1. UC Berkeley not the City of Berkeley. The “Event” was hardly a “Riot” I have been caught up in riots and this was no riot. However, why a mask wearing brigade of mindless renegades should not have been allowed on campus to begin with. Combined policing forces available dropped the ball. The UC society unaided would have had a completely different outcome.

      2. Parts of the UCB society were certainly in on it. The campus organization Berkeley Against Trump was urging its members and others to “shut down” the Yiannopolous speech. I doubt they believed that shutting down the speech meant something like marching around with signs and chanting “Hey, hey, ho, ho, Milos Yiannopolous has got to go,” or something equally intelligent.

    1. One of these mindless anarchists is going to mace or punch the wrong guy one day, probably a marine or retired spec forces guy, and get his pencil neck snapped.

    2. jeffmartin254 says:

      I am familiar with the Nazi program and what happened to the participants. They were ground into dust, utterly defeated and relegated to the worst chapter of modern history..forever along with Stalin and the Soviet monster.

  10. “At the core of Liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.” – P.J. O’Rourke

  11. Even in the comments here people are not paying attention to the point of the story – Normal citizens do not feel safe meeting in a group setting. It violates the constitution and is just like an oppressive dictatorship driving opposition groups underground.
    Forget trying to justify being mean to Republicans, try being humane and protecting constitutional liberties for the “minority”… and yes conservatives are the minority in this context.

    1. John Collins says:

      It’s all fun and games until someone get their eye poked out.

  12. I wear my MAGA hat proudly. if you try to take it, you will die. KISS=keep it simple silly

    1. I like seeing you tRump-pets wearing those silly red hats. They look like a target…

      1. John Collins says:

        Targets that shoot back. It’s all fun and games until someone gets their eye poked out.

      2. Hey Neal, you leftists LOST. Get used to more of the same and just learn to deal with it. Change is coming, bigly.

        MAGA, baby.

      3. Bijou Bijou says:

        You wimps are just that – wimpy puzzyBoys.

  13. Nothing shuts the leftwingnut b^st^rds up. You can stand them up at the break of dawn and show them this event we all call “the sunrise” and they will argue that the sun is not rising but rather the earth is turning and call you an idiot for your traditional viewpoint. They will argue about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, ignoring the good ‘intent’ or good ‘purpose’ of that thing. They will stand in defiance against the almighty God Himself and will eventually force Him to destroy them. And even then they will go to heII defying Him.

    That is the true nature of the leftwingnut in America today.

    1. BAHAHAHA
      Yeah, buddy, the earth isn’t turning, we’re the center of the universe. I bet the Earth’s flat, too. I mean, you realize that a sunrise would look identical whether the sun was rising or the earth was turning, right?

  14. it is time for someone to shoot up some of these liberal universities and liberal nazis have it coming to them

  15. The Lunatic-Left loves diversity of thought and races; except, if you are white and think and talk logically, then the Lunatic-Left will break and burn stuff.

  16. This is exactly why Trump won and will win again in 2020. America is tired of the “tolerant” liberal left.

  17. Tomas Cruz says:

    Liberals are vile violent bullies who want to ban books/words/people/ideas, rename buildings, remove statues and sterilize history. And the call us Nazis.

  18. It’s not just the Bay Area where this occurs. Try being a conservative in Chicago. Its no different here.

  19. Yes, the Liberals are the violent ones. It is a sad day in American when all citizens in the country can not exercise their Constitutional Rights! What happened to American Values? What happened to Law and Order? What happened to the character of the people? GOD Save The Republic!

  20. CONS are transforming from p#ssy grabbers to just p#ssies.

    1. You and your ilk are going to want to be careful. You pushed until Trump got elected. If you keep pushing we may push back outside of the ballot box and that will be a very bad day for you lefties indeed.

    2. girlkansas says:

      And the alt-left wear p$%y hats and costumes.

  21. Being passive and hiding is exactly what these terrorist want you guys to do

    Until you start defending yourselves, both legally and physically, they will keep attacking you.

    Everytime they attack you for being a “nazi,” and you respond by trying to explain that you are not a nazi, they win.

    Don’t defend being a conservative or libertarian, Defend your rights as an American, and don’t deviate from that.

    -Ken

  22. You would NEVER have seen the violence that occurred at UC Berkeley from conservatives — and all over some gay libertarian’s political stand-up routine?? The mask has long been removed from liberals, and it ain’t pretty. I grew up a liberal (my first Presidential vote was for Jerry Brown) and there finally came a day when even I couldn’t ignore the truth anymore: the liberal lies, hostility, hypocrisy, intolerance and extended immaturity. I realized liberalism is a dead end for any nation. Now I’m on the conservative side and have never looked back. I know folks on the Left refuse to even give this idea a chance, but you really need to calm down and give Trump a fair chance. The man truly wants to improve life for EVERY American — and he’ll prove ii to you if you’ll just stop spewing your hatred for awhile.

  23. The only thing missing from the left are their lack of brown shirt uniforms. If you think or say something which they don’t approve, you will be mocked and reviled, at best, or assaulted and beaten. A new fascism is rising on the left and in the media outlets which support them.

  24. SF seems to be the new Nazi Germany. It’s hard to believe that is part of America. SF should be ashamed!!!!!! California doesn’t need to secede from the U.S. They need to be booted out.

    1. Jim Strong says:

      I agree. They should not be allowed to secede but expulsion is another matter. If we stopped pulling and started pushing I’ll bet they would change their tune muy pronto..

  25. Spin Cycle says:

    Well…. this is just the way it is deep blue states. The leftist are so certain they are right, that they refuse to allow anyone else to express a contrary opinion. They have moved beyond being smug and have now embraced violence to shut down all dissent.

    The sad part is their violence is encouraged by Democrat elected officials, and actually encouraged at universities.

    A conservative in the Bay Area feels like a Jew in Nazi Germany in 1934. It is best to keep your mouth shut, go underground, or flee to a more tolerant place if you value your own personal safety.

  26. Bokshil Kim says:

    I can’t wait until Governor Moon Beam makes California a Sanctuary State. All the ‘Illegal Aliens” will flood the state. The collapse will happen that much sooner.

  27. Stu Pedasso says:

    Another great argument in favor of concealed carry, eh?

  28. Are your left wing braggarts on here proud of your association with the violence, mayhem and destruction wrought by your compatriots (emphasis on RIOTS) at UC Berkeley and New York U? You cannot possibly self-identify as Democrats, ostensibly the party of peace, tolerance, inclusion and diversity, and align yourselves with such lawlessness. Is this more of the hypocrisy that has characterized Democrats since the decade of the 1960s? Or are you merely anarchistic criminals?

  29. Went to a comedy club in the San Francisco last night and the headliner was doing a bit trashing
    Trump and Trump supporters. He asked if there actually were any Trump voters in the audience. When no one raised their hand, I did. This was a room of about 200 mostly millennials with a few older folks. The comic did not mock me but a few of the audience did. I betcha there were more than one other Trump voter in there, but people are just so afraid to speak out. Hence the under polling for Trump before the election. Don’t get me wrong, Trump would have never won California, but he has more support here than is visible. Have some courage folks. Stand up to these pathetic PC police. If the Dems won, these criminals could have taken on the role that the Red Guards did in China, an out of control pathetic group-think rabble, torturing, killing and looting based on their collective mob mentality of self-righteousness, shutting down and eliminating all who dare disagree with their anti-American ideology. They’d be coming for us. Its up to us to stand up for conservative values, even if right now that means supporting Trump. He has been brave in defending his agenda. We should be. Did you hear that whizzing sound of the bullet past your head that we dodged last Nov. 8?

  30. This is getting to be like cuba or n korea,
    First they came for the Republicans, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a republican.

    Then they came for the conservatives, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a conservative.

    Then they came for the patriots, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a patriot.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

  31. Conservatives, libertarians and independents need to get organized and trained. Form a local militia and begin practice drills immediately. The Communists have shown they can deliver an army of masked, armed thugs to anywhere in America. And as we’ve seen, the police will stand down so we must prepare for our own defense….NOW!

  32. Sadly it doesn’t really matter since our demographics and debt will destroy US regardless of who is president. Some conservatives I talk to realize this. None of the liberals do.

    If you want to know our future, read Jorgen Randers book 2052.

  33. Fu*king s h i t libs. Should all be hung for sedition.

  34. Judy Hampton says:

    This past year and currently the Left has displayed, disruption, obstruction, violence and hate speech. The whining from the left is beyond belief. You are the party of using my tax dollars to support non-us citizens for their education, livilihood, welfare, medical on and on and also jeapordizes the safety of this country. You have shown your true policies and who you are this last election. California (which I loved) has become a State of disrarray and disfunction. Please separate and take all the visa holders with you and all the refugees. We will not mind. Tired of non-speaking english workers, against us for not accepting their way? Last time I was in another country, we adapted to their way. Do not come unless you prepare to assimilate. I do not want coffee with a burka sorry.

    Original immigrants came to this country to live the dream and they worked hard. These people are getting low interest loans to start businesses? Sure wish I had had that with my businesses???

    Berkley is just another example that none of your pracitice what you preach. You do notp event respect the 1st ammendment. But you scream at the right for taking away their birth control, same sex marriage, healthcare? Hmmmm. Who is the obstructionist here? Me thinks it’s you!

    Hillary lost for a reason. She is a horrible candidate and is representing the worst of your party. Even your own party saw that. It amazes me how you can point the finger at Trump for Executive Orders when Obama did exactly the same…let’s repeat that…he did exactly the same.

    Sad that people have to hide their thoughts in California. You are the State of oppression.

  35. Anybody smart enough to be a liberal understands that conservatives having to meet secretly because they fear for their safety is really tolerance. Of course, anybody smart enough to be a liberal also understands that freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and war is peace.

    It’s HIGH TIME we Americans began standing up for ourselves by declaring that the liberal emperor is sashaying around naked as a jaybird.

  36. Jack Frost says:

    I have many friends in middle America, away from the bastions of progressives, who work in or around public sector jobs (mostly college level education and govt agencies). Those of the “evil conservative persuasion” are very careful NOT to betray their feelings / thoughts because of the certain harm that will befall them re their employment and vandalism of their personal vehicles / homes / ….

    Today’s “progressives” are indeed analogous to the Red Guards of Mao’s China.

  37. Progressives are about progressing. They were first to protest, then they were first to demonstrate, then next they moved to resist, and as their leading edge shows us disruption (there is always a leading edge) progressives will move on to disrupt, and after that, the only thing to progress to is destroy.

    The next crop of progressives have already learned how to silence dissent on campus.

  38. John Hoff says:

    The libs won’t pull this cr@p in states where gun ownership is widespread, like Florida.
    Watching some snowflake poop his/her/whatever pants would be funny.
    Besides, why be afraid of a liberal male? They’re all puzzies anyway.

  39. I know the feeling. I got a masters degree in social work a few years ago, at a very liberal, big public university. You learn to be a ghost in the Machine…….”ERE I am!”

    LIberals know a lot about oppression, it’s true. In fact, they wrote the book on it.

  40. Liberal fascism is just as deadly as German fascism or Italian fascism. Arm yourselves and be vigilant because cop killing liberals go to violence as the first response to any disagreement with their totalitarian ideology

  41. Tom Fernwood says:

    This shows how fascist the left has become. The end game is communism and good people will only be subjugated through violence and intimidation, now the life blood of the far left. They are the “enemy within” the Founding Fathers warned us about.

  42. herringtown says:

    Someone needs to find out where these degenerates are meeting and tell them to get the hell out of san francisco. Their kind isn’t welcome here.

  43. One can never overstate the irony of riots, violence, destruction of property, fires, all in the name of “love”, “diversity”, and “tolerance”. Liberals are the biggest hypocrites alive, and they find no shame in this. They always have some “explanation” to justify their hatred. And yes, Hitler was a violent socialist too.

  44. Mao, or Stalin, or Castro, or Chavez or Hitler, or Mussolini. ALL LEFTISTS!!!
    Are you seeing a pattern yet?

  45. San Fransicko parasites, slurping the stool out of the DNC’s colon, think their Obamanaut Linskeyite tactics, their Berkeley terrorism tactics, their Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Babs Boxer operatives will deliver a libby paradise. A place where a permanent underclass of welfare dependents must vote Democrat or die, a place where everything is paid for by evil, old white men, a place where presumptive infallibility and culpability are always, firstly, determined by race and gender political distinctions contrived by losers who can’t succeed without charity, theft and force. Paradise is coming, enemies of the Republic. It’s coming. But, you’re not gonna like it.

  46. The Jews waited to long to get out of Germany. And they thought the police would protect them. Read you history and when it starts to repeat… Learn.

  47. Today’s far-left operates in the mode of Hitler’s Brownshirts

  48. America is suffering from a pandemic of propagandized pinheads that are firmly in the grip of the acanemia-induced mass psychosis called politically correct ‘progressivism’. Thankfully President Trump is immune to their playground taunts. Recess is over children, back to reality school now.

  49. Vox Veritas says:

    Lenin tablecloths

  50. Jagu Jenkins says:

    first of all – this political opposition of the marxists, of the marxist-democrat party, of the marxist brainwashed drone puppets that support the marxists, by the globalists, by the corporatists – simply attests to the fact that the entire establishment is still controlled by and full of marxists, and marxist-mind-conditioned people in not just the politicians, but also in the judges, and in the entire power structure and bureaucracies. That is why it would takes decades for someone who both understands this, and who has the principles and resolve to purge and root out the marxist cancers within the government at all levels, across all branches, judiciary included. This requires a level of knowledge and of political will to fight with blood, because the marxists are already waging bloody wars in the streets and the battle against them has not even begun against them. Which is precisely why, ONLY a civil war that annihilates every vestige and person that is infected with the marxist mind-conditioning can defeat it. Anything less is like pulling tops of weeds and leaving the roots to quickly regrow and reconquer and continue its endless assault and destruction of freedom, western civilization, Christianity, and God.

  51. Frank Davis says:

    Conservatives fearing for their safety in the US, reminds me of Christians fearing for their safety in countries that are Islamic or controlled by ISIS.

  52. illinoisatlarge says:

    There is a Nazi like atmosphere on the Left that suppresses free speech, independent thought and any diversity from party doctrine du jour. It is destructively unhealthy for our country and at odds with common people of middle America.

  53. This is stupid. Lay a trap: Work together to get some of the commie criminals to attack. Even if they scr

  54. Suibne Geilt says:

    always the same with the left…..they assault and violently attack while calling the victim a nazi. these are all past tense conversations kids….The democrat traitors are still trying to steal the election. It will come to blood in the streets because it is what they want and what they need. Americans voted them out….they do not have a seat at the table because of the elections. You did that and now they will riot, murder, ahe sssault and attack YOU BECAUSE THEY LOST. The President has a legal right to keep America Safe…..but, don’t think about it because all the talk in the world will not change the left…The only important thing now is ARE YOU READY?…..YOU BETTER BE READY! the supreme court should simply rule on whether ignoring laws is legal or not……why should anybody care what the supreme decides. The left doesn’t

  55. Andy Mason says:

    See this Horowitz pamphlet from several years ago that is so on target for the way this movement works: http://horowitzfreedomcenterstore.org/products/barack-obama-s-rules-for-revolution-the-alinksy-model

    This has become a professional force of mercenaries of all sorts; the old saying used to refer to those who ‘vote for a living.’ They’ve now advanced to ‘rioting for a living.’

  56. Fear from who or what? I thought the Bay area was fully diversified and the most tolerant of demographics in the County? Just ask GrandMa FunBags. She’ll testify!

  57. As a Bay Area conservative (South San Jose) I’m a bit disappointed by the whining. Maybe we should start a group of conservatives that confront these leftist with facts, and start counter-rallies. Non-violent counter-rallies where we issue our side of the story. The facts.

    Email me spratico@gmail.com. I will help coordinate this effort.

    I’m tired of watching nice, lawful conservatives getting sucker-punched by these lazy Marxist, anarchists. Stand up to them. They have nothing. We have the facts and the power on our side.

  58. CA is starting to resemble Germany in the late 30s…
    I am a conservative, and am always armed with some hollow points to defend myself!

  59. Reed Smith says:

    This is pretty bad…a facist state is being born right under our eyes…Washington and Oregon to soon follow, but then if that happend, both eastern Oregon and Washington will want to secede from their parent states, and if California ever secedes, the cartels will own it within a year

  60. Reed Smith says:

    And to think the “tea party” was excoriated for one, wait for it….spitting incident. Oh the horror! But never filmed, never proved. Meanwhile, the all in black shocktroops of the alt-left are rampaging literally every day…but does Soros have enough money to pay them all at this rate? Will he have to bet short on more national currencies and hedge against more misery of others to compensate? I suspect so…

  61. Liberals like to say conservatives are fascists but when you look at their behavior, anyone with a clear mind can see it is they who seek to eliminate freedoms; speech and freedom to gather being the most obvious. One look at how Berkeley shut down Milo Yiannopoulos speech proves this. They would not let him meet with a sold out crowd who were interested in hearing him. No. These people are so paranoid that they would not let others hear an opposing opinion. They could not risk other people having their eyes opened. If that isn’t the definition of fascism I don’t know what is!! These people want complete control of the topics discussed in public.

  62. Unless you want to live in a fascist society, don’t EVER vote democrat again. They have become the party of violence and anti-free speech!

  63. maybe you could hire some mexicans to protect you from the snowflakes…lol

  64. Better to form militias and train in hand to hand and weapons tactics. The Left is full of losers waiting for the call up while smoking dope in their Moms basement. A little situational awareness and prep will go a long way.

  65. here in fly over land we all have guns and the snow flakes fear us, just beatch slap a few snow flakes and the rest will scurry away

  66. I am actually afraid of my own family at this point ostracizing me for my political beliefs.

    The place I work I hear it all day long how much they hate trump,.

    I love him, I think he is sent as a savior.
    I thought this country would just keep spiraling down hill.

    My friends OMG I paid $26 for eggs at breakfast out only to have to listen to how much they hate Trump and why.
    They said we need to revolt/ really ? I remained silent knowing I would vote for him again and again and again!.
    I hope he runs a second term then his family or Pence from there.

    But I would rather remain silent and right than Angry, violent and wrong.

    1. jsolbakken says:

      Don’t your liberal friends get suspicious when you remain so quiet?

    2. I have never really directly been asked about my opinion, I have a quiet and agreeable nature and my friends probably just think I agree with them, But seriously I don’t.

  67. Red says:

    We do the same thing in Virginia, but we actually have 2nd amendment rights here, so were are careful how we deal with demonicrats and how we display our political beliefs because we dont want to have to shoot an attacker.

    Having the ability and right to defend yourself still comes as a pain in the arse. I’d rather avoid the conflict. Even when you are in the right to do so, shooting someone is a pain to deal with.

    Besides, Democrats are why I’m pro choice on Abortion…well, I’m libertarian so I’m pro-choice on everything, but think about it; it is primarily democrats who would have an abortion anyway…they are awful people…clearly…as they would kill their own baby because it came at an “inconvenient time for them”…after they clearly failed to use proper birth control I would add…but I dont feel society is harmed by them not procreating. Can you imagine how many more idiot Democrats there would be without abortion?

    I say “abort away”…and I dont mind my tax dollars paying for it. They should have no problem with what I just wrote, I’m simply siding with one of their heroes, Margaret Sanger, who as a eugenicist saw abortion and birth control as a way to cleanse society of undesirable genealogical traits. The same reason I am pro-choice. Good people have and care for their children, so they wont be getting abortions and they’ll likely raise good people just like them. We need more good people and less idiots who would kill their own child.

  68. I hope the liberals keep beating the living h*ll out of conservatives. I hope they awaken that sleeping giant that will wash them out of existence with ease. There are more conservatives than there are liberals, and they’re all well armed and in many cases trained to kill. So keep pushing, keep begging for a Antifa-Antifa to form and it won’t be pretty for any American.

  69. that does not arise from work, be abolished.

    12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

    13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

    14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries. The Nazis were socialists.. It was the National Socialist Party.

    These are the infamous demands published in 1920 by the Nazis, called the “25 Points”:

    1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

    2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

    3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

    4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

    5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

    6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

    We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

    7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

    8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

    9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

    10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

    Therefore we demand:

    11. That all unearned income, and all income

    15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

    16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

    17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

    18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

    19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

    20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

    21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

    22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

    23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

    (a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

    (b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

    (c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

    Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

    24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

    The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

    COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

    25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

    The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

    The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice

    1. All demands REJECTED… I suggest you move to Cuba before we find your sniveling ass. .

  70. Sorry about the incomplete post above. My point is the Nazis were socialists. They were the National Socialist Party.

    The fact that liberals have incorrectly labeled the fascism of the Nazis as extreme right does not make it correct. Fascism exists on the left and the right, and simply means everything sacrificed to and for the state.

    Read for yourself the infamous “25 points”, the demands published by the Nazi Party in 1920.

    Their slogan was “Common Good before Individual Good” Sound familiar?

    1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

    2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

    3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

    4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

    5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

    6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

    We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

    7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

    8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

    9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

    10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

    Therefore we demand:

    11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

    12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

    13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

    14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

    15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

    16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

    17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

    18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

    19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

    20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

    21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

    22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

    23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

    (a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

    (b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

    (c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

    Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

    24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

    The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

    COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

    25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

    The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

    The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice

    1. You realize, of course, that you are insane, don’t you?

      1. jsolbakken says:

        The National Socialist German Workers’ Partei were more or less exactly what they said they were. They intended to use the Nation of Germany to impose Socialism on the Workers of the world. They were able to appear as all things to all people to gain a broad base of support. Nationalistic patriotic Germans saw NATIONAL socialist GERMAN workers’ partei, while Socialistic Workers saw national SOCIALIST german WORKERS partei. The Nazis were good at getting to dupes and rubes to see whatever it was they wanted to see.

  71. Mike Giles says:

    The vile, & cowardly SF MainStreamMedia is largely responsible for this “situation”, and for encouraging the National Socialist German Workers Party mentality within the third-grade-level viciousness of those street criminals posing as fake college students over their Uber-Supportive Bay Area mindless “news” sources, which function as “Fake News”.

  72. Sad that those who say they are tolerant really are not …and any one that has a counter view has to meet in secret ….

  73. Time to start knocking liberal heads together.

  74. Hablar Claro says:

    My life finds me travelling most days of the week.
    While I meet and confer with some who are in concert with the tone of the Democrats, media, and liberal elite, I am finding it interesting that during the short tenure of President Trump a great many are more focused on their observation and growing belief that the media and Democrats are ignorant that their actions are self-defeating, and are unknowingly to them are becoming marginalized.
    Perhaps it is time for those who graduated kindergarten to begin acting like mature adults, rather than children in a school yard spat, or be prepared to deal with future consequences of their actions.

  75. Well libs and democrats are responsible for all of the politically motivated assassinations and crime in general so why does this violence surprise anyone.

  76. dt60093 says:

    Build the wall and deport the libs to Mexico.

  77. The Democrat Brown Coat Nazi’s want to control speech, history and your life. Do what you can to protect yourself…

  78. If you look at how the counties within california voted, you would find that the blue counties were by far a minority, unfortunately they were the counties with the biggest populations,,,ie the bay area/lalaland, every where else we were solid red, and a good portion of us in the north and east want to secede from california to start the State of Jefferson. I love the fact that when the bay area people want to come to tahoe, they have to drive past huge Trump Signs posted on the freeways letting them know they are in Trump country, keeps them in check up here!

  79. Ian McDonald says:

    Sadly I live in this state just 3 hours from the crazy city… and it’s true, as a Libertarian that strongly supports conservative values I have to keep my views and opinions to myself. My first amendment right is aggressively oppressed by the “tolerant” left. I hate this place…

  80. Paul Thomas says:

    I hope that one day we can all agree to get along regardless of political ideology. I myself am somewhere in the middle. I’m also not naive enough to think that I’m correct about everything. I feel like I’m in the minority when I say I’m more interested in learning why people think as they do, rather than spouting my personal opinions, which are, only opinions.

    When I vote I tend to lean conservative more or less because people like those in the article scare me. I understand that people who do things like this aren’t the majority, but it is still a negative association. People blame Trump, but it’s not Trump. The problem is in the mirror.

    1. jsolbakken says:

      If you’re even the slightest bit curious why other people think the way they do then you are definitely NOT NOT NOT IN THE MIDDLE!!! You are and must of moral necessity be on the side of liberty, and against the side of tyranny over the mind of man. See, they’ve brainwashed you and tricked you into thinking that because you are open minded you must be a moderate in the mushy political middle. NOPE!!!

  81. Mark Radunz says:

    Advice to California conservatives: Arm yourselves now. While you can.

  82. The young are more malleable than you think, we need to be offensive. Spread the word and educate, Things can turn around. I won’t hide or quiet my voice, This is America, and I still have my constitutional rights

  83. Jerry Summey says:

    It’s time for everyone to be concerned when the communist fascist are allowed to shut down free speach in this country.

  84. Milo had no trouble speaking in my state, yes there were protests but the protesters knew that there were Patriots walking around with concealed carry weapons because it’s legal here. Don’t ever give up you’re right to carry or end up like California not being able to protect yourself

  85. FASCISTS declare we are a one party nation.

  86. Always carry a few hollow points for insurance…

  87. What they are doing in California is anti-American, plain and simple. These liberals should be ashamed but that’s the problem. They don’t even see how, ironically the same 1st Amendment that allowed them to rise to prominence is the 1st Amendment they are willing to put in jeopardy.

  88. Sad commentary that this is considered necessary even for a microsecond…

  89. In clown world, degenerates get parades and conservatives have to go in a closet.

  90. Jerry Newman says:

    The drama and paranoia of the right wing is amazing and intended to further divide the American people. We progressives who feel should sevre all Americans are willing to
    meet and discuss issues with those conservatives who are willing to desist from name calling, accept and discuss facts even if we interpret then diifferently and accept that we have a right to be heard too. Over the years I’ve been in many political discussions with conservatives where there was no name calling. That rarely happens today which is very sad for both sides.

  91. If this Liberal practice doesn’t scream Fascism, then Nazi Germany was never Fascist.

  92. Grizz Mann says:

    Republicans had to do that during the heyday of the KKK. Depend on Democrats to repeat their failures until Soros gives them enough money. Like that helped Hillary.

  93. There are more Trump supporters of all races in the Bay Area, more than the paid agitator for sure. MOST of Trump supporters that I know, who speak out openly, are LEGAL immigrants, who are disgusted and personally affected by the disgraceful, seditious, violent, ignorant, low-class behavior of these so-called Americans. These seditious liberal bullies will not go away without serious action, and we’re ready for it. Bring it on.

  94. I lived in California for 50+ years, it has become so intolerant I finally left for Nevada…best decision I have ever made…good riddance you intolerant hypocrits!

  95. “…the prosperity comes back and the jobs come back, every one calms down a little bit.””

    If they cared about $$ prosperity they wouldn’t be Leftists. Wake up, cuckservative. They don’t want prosperity, they want you in chains or converted to the One True Faith.

    1. Mr. Podgorski, if, by your erudite observation, and I quote: “KPIX suks”, you intended to besmirch, belittle and denigrate the point of this political commentary, I believe you’ve made its point.

  96. Those of you who recognize my name know I lived, played music and did musical instrument repair in San Francisco and the Greater Bay Area from 1969 to 1986 when, “I got fed up with people falling over with needles in their arms and me depending on them for work”, as I’ve put it. I could almost never bring up or admit my true political leanings and opinions, because, while I was pretty much open minded about many things, I noticed a certain “Blind Spot” in many of my peers and those who were influential in the music world. (I think “Blacklisted” is descriptive of what happens to those in the industry that don’t tow the socio-political line.) During this current lasting political season, I’ve lost two friends on FaceTube (as a friend calls it) who are both known to me personally. One is a talented musician I’ve known since the mid/late ’60’s. In fact, he did the honors and performed the ceremony when my wife and I got married on the side of Mt. Tam in 1970. Not as a musician, but as the “Preacher”. The other is an extremely gifted Luthier that I worked with at Stars Guitars when I was the Guitar Doctor there in ’77/8 to ’80 when I left in June. I’ve discovered the hard way that even those whom I grew up with musically in the mid ’60’s, have turned out for the most part to be of the “Do as I say, not as I profess” variety. And I had such high hopes for what Gail Garnet called, “The Age of Asparagus”.

  97. So much for keeping it secret when you’ve got the local news blasting it all over the place. Looking for trouble channel 5-San Fran?

  98. Violence is the language of the Left. Violence always comes from the Left.

    The Left is hate. Revenge is its pastime. Genocide is its legacy.

  99. Hypocrisy comes to mind when many conservatives claim they can not be themselves. Are you not the one choosing to live this lie? Many of you are against pro-choice yet take birth control and have sex out side of marriage. How many of you actually adopt children? Many are against gay people yet you live in a city that is open to all people regardless of sexual orientation. Many of you are stating your job is here, you cant leave etc. when the choice is yours to stay. You are choosing to live in a very liberal state because you have the freedom that you would not have in a conservative state. Get over it and stop telling yourselves “alternative facts” your not as conservative as you claim to be…

    1. Have you really considered what you just literally implied? “San Francisco and the Bay Area, and, while you’re at it, all of California! Love it or leave it!”? (Echo’s of another era?) It sounds like you’ve become that which you claim to hate. Not that I doubt that you “Hate”, of course, it’s just that it seems you cannot see yourself for what you’ve become.

    2. Rory Flood says:

      Spare us the hypocrisy line of BS. We’ve seen it from the left on everything from immigration, war, gay rights, misogyny. Nice try though.

  100. Dub Gabriel says:

    If conservatism was still Regan style conservatism (who was also a California resident) I would disagree, but at least tolerate. But let’s call it what it is in it’s current form, this is Fascist corporatism and that kind of ideology should be in fear in the Bay Area!

  101. It’s been that way in Seattle for decades. Homes with political signs for conservative candidates are routinely vandalized, cars with non-Leftist bumper stickers WILL be keyed at minimum and most likely severely damaged if parked in most areas of the City. Nobody who is conservative talks politics at work because they know they’ll be fired.

  102. Kurt Smith says:

    Never forget…inside every lib is a nazi screaming to get out.

  103. Neuro Mancer says:

    San Francisco… rapidly making itself into the armpit of America.

  104. Marie Taylor says:

    There is something wrong when I can’t express simple views like I am against illegal immigration without being called racist or that I have concerns about Islamic terrorism. I was disgusted that Berkeley rioters beat conservatives unconscious simply for wanting to hear Milo speak. The news coverage called Milo a white supremacist in a disgusting attempt to justify domestic terrorism against conservatives and didn’t even cover the people wounded in the attack. Milo is gay and far from being white supremacist. California is becoming a liberal fascist state that has no tolerance for alternative opinions.

  105. Rory Flood says:

    I don’t think the entirety of California is a lost cause for conservatives. 25 out of 58 counties voted for Trump, many up in northern California went big on Trump. Just need to keep beating liberals with good ideas.

  106. Billy Harald says:

    Funny, I just don’t feel sorry for conservatives, who’ve been behaving much worse than this for, let me think, much, much longer than I’ve ever been alive.

  107. Billy Harald says:

    “They seem to pride themselves on being diverse, and they are diverse about everything but their ideology,”

    Oh that’s really hilarious!! Now if these so-called “conservatives” actually included anyone who looked different from them (they don’t), there might be something to that argument.

    But that’ll NEVER happen… they invented the monolithic opinion, after all…

    1. Aaron Gayden says:

      I’m pretty sure I don’t look like the “them” you are speaking about. To be honest, I’ve been the raisin in the rice most of my life and I am treated with great respect, trust, love and generosity. I’ve had on bad year racially in my life and that was in another state. I am much more consious of being the other as a Christian conservative in the arts than I am as a black man in general. This has been the case far more often than not. Conservatives are not horrible people by definition any more than liberals are. Both run the gamut from wonderful to hideous.

  108. Billy Harald says:

    Funny, how so much of the conservative rest of the nation is sure “Kalifornia” is such a crazy bad place, but they’ve never visited, don’t have family or friends here, and wouldn’t be caught dead in our borders.

    Heck, they won’t even visit Disneyland. But they sure are full of “opinions” about us. And they sure do like our movies, our tech, our wine, our pot, our beach culture, and all of our lovely money.

    1. jsolbakken says:

      Hey, I’ve lived in Gruberfornia since 1959. I’ve seen it go from a haven for beatniks to a haven for hippies to a haven for gays until now it is a haven for psychotic megalomaniacal Marxoid wackos. I’ve lived here for almost 60 years and it has gone so far downhill that the beatniks and the hippies and the normal non-Marxoid gays are all moving out now.

  109. Aaron Gayden says:

    It’s tough to imagine leaving family and friends and the diverse natural beauty of California and , and, and… but if they actually secede from the union we’ll
    probably have to figure it out.

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